During design review, request for additional information on actual installed materials.
I upload the specification section showing requirement for SRI > 78 for steep slope roof. Federal project: performance spec only, no specific manufacturer/model/make allowed.
At final design review, credit is denied. I write to review team, saying project is not yet in construction, no actuall materials have been submitted or installed. Review team responds, bless their hearts. Sorry, reference guide is clear: "actual installed material". There is no guarantee that what is specified will actually be installed.
Couldn't you say that about any design element?
So, I used the Contact Us page on the GBCI website. Here's the reply:
"Unfortunately, this credit was appropriately denied. The LEED NC 2.2 Reference Guide clearly states under "Submittal Documentation" for this credit that project teams are required to "Provid a listing of installed roofing materials and their SRI values" (page 100). Additionally, this requirement was called out within your project's Preliminary Review Comments: "Also, please provide a complete listing of installed roofing materials and their SRI values, as required in the Roofing Materials Table of the Template." When you received this Technical Advice and realized that you would not have the clarification materials until after construction had commenced, the appropriate course of action would have been to have marked the credit as "Deferred" so that it would not be reviewed again until the Construction Review phase when you could provide the required information.
Unfortunately, as you did provide additional documentation for the Design Final Review and as the credit has already undergone two official reviews, it will not be possible to supply any new documentation or receive any additional reviews without going through a formal appeal process. Please note - you can either choose to appeal this credit now or wait until after the completion of the Final Construction Review and appeal it then. This is true for any credit marked "Denied" following the conclusion of the Design Review stage."
Tristan Roberts
RepresentativeVermont House of Representatives
LEEDuser Expert
11477 thumbs up
April 29, 2010 - 5:34 pm
Wow, this is really frustrating! It basically seems like GBCI/USGBC are treating this credit as a construction submittal, despite its being offically labeled a design submittal.Looks like to be on the safe side, teams should wait to submit till construction. Hopefully USGBC will either clarify this in the future, or remove the requirement for installed equipment info.
Francis Porter
21 thumbs up
August 23, 2011 - 6:16 am
So just to confirm, it is possible to submit at design and then add previously 'removed' design credits within the construction submittal?
Alternatively, it possible to include an SRI specificaiton of a roof product which the design team belives will be used as part of the design submittal and then update if it changes within the construction submittal as the supplier is confirmed?
Thanks.
Susann Geithner
PrincipalEmerald Built Environments
1297 thumbs up
August 23, 2011 - 9:19 am
You can defer any design credit and submit it with construction review. You are also required to update credits from design to construction review, if you change the design and therefore the credit's calculation/documentation.
This credit in particular should be submitted during construction review. Otherwise you may run into the same trouble than Kim and have to appeal the credit.
Francis Porter
21 thumbs up
August 23, 2011 - 9:33 am
Thanks for the confirmation. Since the submission process is not well covered in the reference guide could you suggest another source of how the process works and all its little tricks.
Thanks
Susann Geithner
PrincipalEmerald Built Environments
1297 thumbs up
August 23, 2011 - 9:51 am
Not really. I wish there is something, but I basically learned with each project and here and there you will find some pieces of information. The only resource I would suggest in regards to timeline and formal proceedings is the GBCI's certification policy, which you will find on their website.
In any case LEEDUser is a great resource to get those questions answered.