I am a PE who has been approached by a building owner with a request to have the building "re-commissioned." I have designed LEED projects before, and participated in the original commissioning, but never re-commisioning. The building earned LEED Silver in 2012, but I was not involved. I don't know at this point if it was 2.2 or 2009. Does re-commissioning require any submission to USGBC for review? If I don't need to go through USGBC red tape, I can do the consulting for a fraction of the fee and the owner has more money left to make improvements.
If USGBC does not get any documentation for re-commissioning is there any consequence such as rescinding of certification? I have heard that there may be a mechanism for rescinding certifications in version 4, but there has been none in earlier versions. Is there any truth to that?
Sorry if this is a double post. The first time it did not show up. Thank you.
Tristan Roberts
RepresentativeVermont House of Representatives
LEEDuser Expert
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March 14, 2016 - 12:19 pm
John, USGBC would only be involved if the project were pursuing LEED for Existing Buildings certification or wanted to get a LEED dynamic plaque. And there is no impact relative to the status of the existing certification. If anything USGBC would encourage an honest assessment at this stage of how a project is doing.
Scott Bowman
LEED FellowIntegrated Design + Energy Advisors, LLC
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March 14, 2016 - 1:14 pm
Right Tristan. Re-commissioning should be part off the plan for every building, and is a great way to ensure proper operation AND improve operation over time. This sets up the owner for EBOM and Dynamic Plaque as well.
Jack Schirpke
Manager - Commissioning, CCP, CxA, LEED AP BD+C, O+MTranswestern Sustainability Services
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March 14, 2016 - 1:17 pm
John, as Tristan points out since nothing is being submitted, there will be no direct involvement with the USGBC. I am curious as to what the LEED red tape includes. I commission using ASHRAE, NIBS, BCA and the ACG for documentation guidance and have not had to modify my reports for LEED purposes.
Scott Bowman
LEED FellowIntegrated Design + Energy Advisors, LLC
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March 14, 2016 - 1:30 pm
Great point Jack, documentation is the foundational to commissioning, providing that trail to be used for operations going forward. If anything, I have found that USGBC requires much less documentation than what I feel is the standard of care in the industry.
Also, to comment on "rescinding certification". LEED for New Construction is a design standard and is intended to be the first stop for a building. The expectation is that within a couple of years of being certified, an owner would pursue EBOM to measure the operation of the building as well as the design. Then EBOM is re-certified on a regular basis.
There is a process for challenging the certification, and USGBC has a means of removing certification, but the process is complex and has built in reviews and appeals...and to my knowledge has been instigated once, and the project kept its certification. If anyone knows different, I would like to learn it. This is built into the agreement owners commit to when registering a project, and when submitting for certification. It is not specific to one version or an other, but has been refined as time goes on.
John Wood
March 14, 2016 - 2:15 pm
Thank you, all. You have been most helpful.