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CI-2009 IDc1:Innovation in Design

NSF 140 Gold vs Platinum

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Kristine Byers
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Kristi Byers, Architect APC
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We are considering an ID Credit for having all of the carpet on the project NSF 140 Certified. My questions: 1. Is this ID Credit still available for CI2009? 2. We have a combination of GOLD certified and PLATINUM certified carpet products. How does the 2.5% (for GOLD) and 1.25% (for PLATINUM) calculation work? Do you assume the lowest common denominator, treat them all as though they were GOLD while completing the calculation and demonstrate 2.5% of the total value of all building materials used on a project? OR Do you treat each separately? The GOLD Certified Carpet must make up 2.5% of the total value and the PLATINUM Certified Carpet must make up 1.25% of the total value?

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Tristan Roberts
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Tue, 07/30/2013 - 22:06

Kristine, what ruling are you referencing for this ID credit? I'm not aware of this precedent, but I could be forgetting something. If you have a LEED Interpretation number I'll check that language and let you know my opinion.
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Kristine Byers
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Tue, 07/30/2013 - 22:14

ID#5063 Additionally, several carpet companies (Mohawk, Interface, Bentley Prince Street, etc.) currently reference this ID Credit on their websites and "LEED Calculators".

Fri, 09/20/2013 - 11:58

I am also curious if this is still being used as an ID credit? As previous poster mentioned, it's listed on many carpet websites.
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Andrew Ellsworth
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Thu, 12/12/2013 - 02:47

Is this thread still active? I have the same questions. My biggest issue is with the definition of "total value of the project". Is this total construction cost? Total material value per MRc4/5? Project cost with all soft costs included? 5% of the total construction cost for just the carpet seems extreme. I'm curious what they're going for here by requiring a high cost for finishes. Any insights?
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Tristan Roberts
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Mon, 12/23/2013 - 19:59

As far as I can tell from a look at the LEED Interpretations database, this Interpretation, #5063, is still available for projects.I agree that the wording of it is confusing, in that it states "project cost," while LEED MR credits typically are based on a percentage of the materials budget. That is clearly what it states, however.However, NSF-140 Platinum carpeting is very common, and for that you only need 1.25%.
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Thu, 07/16/2015 - 18:08

Kristine, Laura, or Andrew - Did you try this as an innovation credit and were you successful? I thought it might show up in the Innovation Catalog in the LEED Credit Library but its not listed there - http://www.usgbc.org/credits/commercial-interiors/v2009/innovation-catalog. I guess they can't list everything.
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Adolfo Salas
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Thu, 03/24/2016 - 14:01

Hi, I am pursuing this credit for a project but still confused on the credit language. Has anyone been able to find out what is meant by 'total value of project': materials cost? or total project cost? Thank you!

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