OK, here's my dilemma: Icemakers are covered by Energy Star, but only air-cooled ice makers qualify. On our project, we have a number of Hoshizaki water-cooled icemakers. Of course, they aren't Energy Star, because Energy Star doesn't rate water-cooled icemakers. Should I list them as non-compliant icemakers, or should I not list them because Energy Star doesn't rate them?
Icemakers are big energy hogs, so this decision is really affecting my percentages.
Emily Catacchio
Sustainability SpecialistWight and Company
610 thumbs up
November 7, 2011 - 4:48 pm
Hi Julie,I believe that since they are not rated they should not be included. Though I suppose it could be argued either way, since one type is rated.Does anyone have experience with this?
Tristan Roberts
RepresentativeVermont House of Representatives
LEEDuser Expert
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November 20, 2011 - 11:10 pm
Julie, in my opinion you should list them, because icemakers as a whole qualify, and there is no difference in the output of the two types of machines. Water-cooled icemakers are not only ineffiicent—they waste a lot of water. I would guess that Energy Star doesn't rate them due to inherent inefficiency.
Becky Dix
Christner Architects7 thumbs up
December 8, 2011 - 2:44 pm
Julie,
Is it a commercial ice maker? I have an undercounter ice maker in a kitchen. Does this one qualify?
Steve Loppnow
Sustainability Account ManagerStok
LEEDuser Expert
294 thumbs up
December 19, 2011 - 3:21 pm
Here is additional information about ENERGY STAR criteria for ice makers: http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=comm_ice_machines.pr_crit_comm_ice...
I agree with Tristan that any commercial ice makers should be included in credit documentation as part of total equipment and should not be excluded if they are water-cooled.
Alaina Ladner
DesignerHuntsman Architectural Group
3 thumbs up
February 2, 2012 - 8:46 pm
I have been researching under cab ice makers and have not found one that is Energy Star rated, unlike the traditional sized ones. All the manufacturers I have contacted have said they don't know of under cab ice makers that are rated by E Star. Anyone found one?
Seema Pandya
Sustainability ConsultantSLP
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February 17, 2012 - 11:10 am
Hi folks, I agree with Emily. The Energy Star website lists specific information on each product on what qualifies. Under Ice makers the following is listed: "Air-cooled, cube-type machines are eligible for ENERGY STAR qualification, including ice-making head, self-contained, and remote condensing units. Qualifying models must meet maximum potable water and energy consumption limits to earn the ENERGY STAR." Energy Star seems to be explicit that air cooled units only are eligible for Energy Star. If the product type is not eligible, you shouldn't have to count it in the baseline or design case.
Jeremy Muenz
LEED Specialist45 thumbs up
February 24, 2012 - 2:26 pm
The water-cooled ice makers would not be considered "ENERGY STAR eligible". As Ms. Pandya stated above, the ENERGY STAR website states that commercial ice makers which are "Air-cooled, cube-type machines are eligible for ENERGY STAR qualification". However it makes no mention of water-cooled ice makers.
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