The project is located on a 2.67 ha L-shaped site and it consists on the following:
• 4 underground levels of parking
• 3 levels of retail (covering the entire site)
• 3 towers that come out of the retail (the three towers start out at the 4th level)
This project will be built on different phases being the 1st phase:
• One of the three towers (office building)
• The retail under the office building
• The 4 subfloors for parking under the retail
All 1st phase will apply for LEED certification. The 1st phase is currently under DD and the MEP is not yet specified. This 1st phase will have separate MEP from the rest of the project.
According to the MPR 3 MUST USE A RESONABLE SITE BOUNDARY:
The LEED project boundary must include all contiguous land that is associated with and supports normal building operations for the LEED project building, including all land that was or will be disturbed for the purpose of undertaking the LEED project.
Is it ok to establish the LEED project boundary as only a portion of the site since only the 1st phase will apply for certification?
We need to establish what the LEED Boundary will have to cover so we can know if the erosion and stormwater sedimentation controls regarding SSP1 need to be implemented on the entire site or only in the portion of it.
Tristan Roberts
RepresentativeVermont House of Representatives
LEEDuser Expert
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December 7, 2010 - 10:11 pm
It sounds to me like this is reasonable.However, why would you not implement an ESC plan on the whole site?
Gabriela Hernández Castillo
Architect, LEED AP BD+CSYASA - México
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December 9, 2010 - 1:00 am
Hello Tristan,
I am particularly interested in this question since I have a similar situation myself. The problem of implementing an ESC plan in the whole site in a situation like this is cost.
So what do you think? Will the prerrequisite sill be met or not with the ESC measures implemented only in a portion of a site?
Tristan Roberts
RepresentativeVermont House of Representatives
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December 9, 2010 - 10:33 am
You would have to meet the ESC measures on the entire LEED Project Boundary, and the LEED boundary has to be set to take in the scope of work relative to the LEED project. There is more info on that in the Reference Guide and Minimum Program Requirements.I would question whether it's really within the spirit of LEED to only do the minimum requirement here. In the U.S.., this prerequisite is generally standard practice, anyway. Can you try to do the plan on all of the affected site area?
Gabriela Hernández Castillo
Architect, LEED AP BD+CSYASA - México
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December 9, 2010 - 10:39 am
We do think the same way. Some of the measures can be full implemented, such as;
1. No runoff is leaving the site
2. All stormwater is being filtered
3. Due to regular weather conditions all soil is wet mostly of the time so no dust is airborne
4. All trucks are covering debris comming out of the site
5. Streets surrounding the site are always free of mud/dirt
But that's about it.
Gabriela Hernández Castillo
Architect, LEED AP BD+CSYASA - México
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December 13, 2010 - 2:49 pm
What if dust prevention and stormwater runnoff mitigation measures are fully implemented at the site (they are standard practice in Panama), however the slope protection is just covered within the LEED project boundary.
Like i mentioned before, it is a matter of cost. I need to be 100% sure the prerrequisite will be met.
Thank you for your help tristan.
Tristan Roberts
RepresentativeVermont House of Representatives
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December 21, 2010 - 8:01 am
I think it's a bad idea and not what LEED is about to only use slope protection within the LEED project boundary. Also, I am not clear on why you would have disturbed site area that is not within the LEED boundary.
Gabriela Hernández Castillo
Architect, LEED AP BD+CSYASA - México
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December 28, 2010 - 7:55 pm
Ok, I think I didn't explain myself properly. First of all I would like to start by defining the LEED Project Building then try to define what the LEED Project Boundary will be (I need some help in this), this is a particular situation that I think will be of interest by others.
This is the project:
-Zero lot line mixed use project with three buildings and underground parking.
-Only one of these building will apply for LEED certification.
-The project will be built by phases, being phase 1 the construction of the LEED project building and the entire uderground parking lot that will be shared with all buildings (LEED and not LEED buildings), this phase 1 is defined by a construction joint.
-The LEED building will have separate MEP from the rest of the buildings
My first question is:
1. ¿How would you draw the LEED Boundary in this case? My assumption is that, since the LEED Project Building will be delimited by the construction joint and will have independent MEP, this joint will be our LEED Project Boundary. ¿Will this be acceptable?
Tristan Roberts
RepresentativeVermont House of Representatives
LEEDuser Expert
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December 28, 2010 - 9:45 pm
Yes, I would say that definition of the LEED boundary makes sense.