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Schools-2009 WEc3: Water Use Reduction
We are working on a LEED for Schools (v 2007 -- again, listed here because there's no v2 Schools section) that just had an exemplary performance strategy denied for achieving >40% reduction. Any idea why this should be given it's the same threshold as NC v2 for this credit?
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Tristan Roberts
RepresentativeVermont House of Representatives
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June 16, 2011 - 10:43 pm
Glen, was there any reviewer comment with the denial? Any indication whether they don't think the EP point exists here, or whether there was something about your calcs that didn't pass muster?
Larry Jones
Associate DirectorAtelier Ten
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June 17, 2011 - 10:47 am
I would like to add that my ID credit for WEc3 Water Use Reduction Exemplary Performance was also recently denied for my LEED for School 2007 project. The GBCI mentioned no special circumstances for this.
Their response: "However, there is no posted exemplary performance path for WEc3 in the LEED for Schools 2007 Reference Guide. TECHNICAL ADVICE: The project may apply for an alternative Innovation in Design credit for the Final Review." Water conservation is a priority in the school as well as in the region. Why wouldn't exemplary potable water savings be encouraged?
Tristan Roberts
RepresentativeVermont House of Representatives
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June 17, 2011 - 10:57 am
I don't have a LEED for Schools 2007 Reference Guide, but I double-checked that the 40% threshold is available in NC v2.2. Remember that these versions existed before the 2009 alignment of rating systems, so is it possible that the EP point simply isn't available for Schools 2007?
Glen Boldt
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June 17, 2011 - 1:00 pm
The 2007 Schools Reference Guide does say there is no exemplary performance point available for this credit. I assumed this is an oversight in the writing of the guide (we've seen others), given that ALL other v2 rating systems (NC, CS, CI) follow the 40% threshold for exemplary performance. Like the comment Larry received, GBCI gave no rationale other than to refer to the guide.
Tristan Roberts
RepresentativeVermont House of Representatives
LEEDuser Expert
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June 17, 2011 - 2:29 pm
Is there a WEc4 in Schools 2007? Perhaps the WE TAG figured that some emphasis should be on that, and not on an EP point for WEc3? Just thinking out loud here... sometimes differences like that are oversights, but sometimes they are intentional. In any case, if it's now allowed per the Reference Guide, I don't have any suggestions for getting the EP point.