I have done a lot of research and can not find any cases of getting an ID credit for using a saltwater pool. Does anyone know of any?
If not do you think it would be an excepted strategy?
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NC-2009 IDc1: Innovation in Design
I have done a lot of research and can not find any cases of getting an ID credit for using a saltwater pool. Does anyone know of any?
If not do you think it would be an excepted strategy?
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Ralph Bicknese
PrincipalHellmuth & Bicknese Architects
21 thumbs up
July 15, 2014 - 5:38 pm
I have not heard of a case of this being tried or accepted as an ID credit either but I would think you could build a case based on not using a chlorine or bromine based system. You could cite potential hazards with those (in use, and possibly in manufacturing) and how salt water based systems are better for individuals and the environment.
Kathryn West
LEED AP BD+C, O+M, Green Globes ProfessionalJLL
154 thumbs up
July 15, 2014 - 5:49 pm
I wouldn't 100% count on it. It seems somewhat business as usual. Additionally, the reference guide states that "the process or specification must be comprehensive. [...] measures that address a limited portion of a project or are not comprehensive in other ways are not eligible." I'd talk up the quantitative environmental benefits and don't get discouraged if you get questioned in your preliminary review comments you may be able to persuade them with your final review response.
The reference guide also says " the level of effort involved in achieving an ID credit should be extraordinary." "Installing a single green product or addressing a single aspect of a sustainability issue is not a sufficient level of effort."
Are you already going for the Sustainable Education ID point? it's more tried and true...
Tristan Roberts
RepresentativeVermont House of Representatives
LEEDuser Expert
11477 thumbs up
July 16, 2014 - 10:06 am
Strikes me as a single technology, not comprehensive in scope—so not going to meet the threshold for this credit. Now, if it were part of a green housekeeping program reducing chemical use throughout the facility...
Nelina Loiselle
Above Green239 thumbs up
July 22, 2014 - 5:37 pm
Thanks all for the feedback!
Yes, I get that its a single technology. It is replacing a standard practice (chlorinated pool) that requires ongoing chemicals that are harmful for people and the environment. So it does have much more of an ongoing impact then a "single technology" would.
We will probably go for a more slam dunk ID though.
Ralph Bicknese
PrincipalHellmuth & Bicknese Architects
21 thumbs up
July 22, 2014 - 6:05 pm
I wouldn't necesarily give up on this. We have gone for and been awarded single-technology ID credits before - like low-mercury lighting - on LEED-NC projects. But as others haave suggested this may not be a slam-dunk. Still, unless you are maxed out on other ID credits I would suggest you go for it. Your approach seems innovative to the point not a technology so widely adopted - yet, and is environmentally and IAQ positive, and is worthy of much broader support.
Kath Williams
LEED Fellow 2011, PrincipalKath Williams + Associates
147 thumbs up
July 22, 2014 - 6:26 pm
This is a situation where there are great advantages to submitting for a split review. We've often "tested" innovation credits during design review and then have had a follow up opportunity (with plenty of time to plan and work on it) at construction credit review time. Single technologies or strategies that are not "comprehensive" seem to be denied on a regular basis. There are additional strategies that could be included in pool design (circulation system, filtering for reuse, etc.) construction, maintenance, and operations to make this a "green pool" or as Tristan commented, make the pool chemicals part of green housekeeping.
Ralph Bicknese
PrincipalHellmuth & Bicknese Architects
21 thumbs up
July 23, 2014 - 1:25 pm
I totally agree with the approach Kath suggested as that will give you the best chance to get the Innovation Credit accepted.
Kath - it is great to hear from you!