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NC-2009 EAc4:Enhanced Refrigerant Management

High Efficiency Chiller Refrigerant Charge vs. Capacity

It seems to me that an unintended consequence of selecting a high efficiency water cooled centrifugal chiller ( both R-123 and R-134a) is the greater difficulty keeping impact per ton below 100 needed to achieve EAc4. I believe the reason is as the chiller manufacturers push their compressor/condenser/evaporator combinations to achieve high energy efficiency(low kw/ton); they find the need to add more and more heat exchanger surface. Along with heat increased heat exchanger surface comes more refrigerant. I have seen this play out with chillers from two major MFR. using two different refrigerants. Has anyone else had any experience with this phenomenon??

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Sat, 02/18/2012 - 05:31

James, I agree that this is a factor.

Sun, 02/19/2012 - 19:00

A followup to my original question. I have found at least one major manufacturer (T) that was able to meet BOTH IPLV - 0.36 AND have a calulated EA credit 4 of less than 100. So it is possible, I just needed to apply a little more pressure to Mfr. Rep. Maybe someday the Chiller Mfrs. will open up their chiller selection software so that Engineers can make optimized chiller selections to meet each projects needs. A guy could dream!!!........

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