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NC-2009 PIf3:Occupant and Usage Data

FTE for a Barracks

Christopher Sawyer

STV INC

LEEDuser Basic Member

37 thumbs up

November 29, 2012

My project is a military barracks for 650 cadets on a campus. It is "Lodging: Dormitory" and there are no offices or securtiy personal etc. When filling out this template for "simple occupancy" is specifically states to not inculde residents in determining FTE. This is confusing. If the student resisdents are not FTE and there are no maintence staff (the cadets have to clean) or securtiy or other regular staffing, I don't have minimal occpancy for a LEED project. How do I figure out FTE in this situation?

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Erin Holdenried

Sustainability Architect

LEEDuser Basic Member

88 thumbs up

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 21:39

You can input the number of residents at the bottom of the form. And, your FTEs will be "0".

Christopher Sawyer

STV INC

LEEDuser Basic Member

37 thumbs up

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 22:02

If my FTE is "0" I don't meet minimal occupancy and can't be certiifed?

Erin Holdenried

Sustainability Architect

LEEDuser Basic Member

88 thumbs up

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 22:31

Ah! You are right! I have a project in a similar situation with only residents, and I just noticed the PIf3 form reads "N". There is another similar comment under the FTE discussion board, but with no answer. http://www.leeduser.com/topic/calculating-ftes If anybody has a solution to this problem of meeting minimum FTE in an all residential building, please speak up.

Tristan Roberts

Representative

Vermont House of Representatives

LEEDuser Expert

7780 thumbs up

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 22:35

The policy is that you can certify a building with 0 FTEs, you just can't earn any points via IEQ credits.That said, it seems to me on a common-sense basis that this rule should not apply to a building like this one. Or perhaps it should be certified under LEED for Homes, especially if there are kitchens in the building used by the residents, and it's low-rise.

Christopher Sawyer

STV INC

LEEDuser Basic Member

37 thumbs up

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 22:38

No kitchens and it is 4 stories and over 250,000 square feet. It is a military barracks with rooms, showers/bathrooms, and a few common areas.

David Posada

Integrated Design & LEED Specialist

SERA Architects

LEEDuser Expert

1361 thumbs up

Mon, 12/03/2012 - 20:27

Make sure you include a narrative somewhere in the project description or PI forms that explains why your occupancy is all residents, and no FTE. You could also include that explanation in the optional narrative boxes in the EQ credits.

Christopher Sawyer

STV INC

LEEDuser Basic Member

37 thumbs up

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 18:11

See response from GBCI below: From: "No reply GBCI" Thank you for contacting the Green Building Certification Institute about how to fill in PIF3 for a barracks building. I've looked at your form but nothing is filled in so far. For 'Space Usage' check 'US fed' and 'Residential' and for 'principal project building activity', select "Lodging: Dormitory". You will not be asked about FTEs and the project is definitely eligible to pursue IEQ credits. I hope that helps, but if you have any further questions or concerns, please feel free to use the contact form at http://www.gbci.org/contactus and select "Follow up to GBCI Response," inputting your case number from this email's subject line.