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Do I have to provide a designated smoking area?

How can I prohibit smoking 25 feet from the entrance of my project when it is a zero lot line and its entrance abuts a public sidewalk?

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NC-2009 IEQp2:Environmental Tobacco Smoke (ETS) Control

designated smoking areas

If you select the option that smoking is prohibited within 25' of the building, LEED Online asks you to indicate where smoking is allowed. Are they simply asking you to upload a site plan that shows the 25' perimeter around the building or do you actually need to create a designated smoking area on the property that is marked by signage?

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Tristan Roberts
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Vermont House of Representatives
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Thu, 03/10/2011 - 19:49

Annette, I don't see that the LEED Online form asks for that. Can you describe more specifically where you are seeing that? (Sample forms can be downloaded directly from our Doc Toolkit above, btw.)
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David Hubka
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Transwestern Sustainability Services
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Thu, 03/10/2011 - 21:33

The online template asks for the following info: "A site plan/map showing the location of the designated outdoor smoking/nonsmoking areas is required to document compliance." If you'd like to allow people to smoke anywhere on the site, as long as it is 25 feet away from the building, this will meet the intent of the prerequisite. This area "anywhere on site except within 25 feet from the building" is also defined as a "designated smoking area" even though it not a nice little smoking box. Be sure to communicate this area to building occupants through signage. Also, speaking from experience, the 25 feet is not a magic number. . . Environmental Tobacco Smoke may still find it's way into the building. Hope this helps.

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 21:36

Hi Tristan, It only appears when you click on the option for "Smoking is prohibited within 25 feet..." then after owner signature the next line states: "A site plan/map showing the location of the designated outdoor smoking areas is required to document compliance." We got a comment from the reviewers that we didn't indicate where the designated smoking areas are and I'm not quite sure what they want.

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 21:38

David, seems we replied at the same time. Are you saying that we should have signage stating, "smoking allowed beyond this point" or something to that effect to indicate where the smoking area is? I can't say I've ever seen that.
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Tristan Roberts
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Thu, 03/10/2011 - 21:41

Annette, thanks for clarifying, I somehow missed that. Ideally you'd prohibit smoking onsite and that would make thing simpler, but as David says either the boundary or a designated area should meet the documentation requirements here.
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David Hubka
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Transwestern Sustainability Services
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Thu, 03/10/2011 - 21:59

I've seen project teams spray paint "no smoking within 25 feet of building" on the pavement 25 feet away from every building entrance. This strategy has been approved by LEED project reviewers. As a bonus this paint is not used on the inside of the building so it is not required to comply with IEC Credit 4.2, however we suggest project teams meet the VOC content requirements for all items. . . "transform the market" type attitude.

Wed, 06/15/2011 - 17:00

We are having the same issue with review comments asking for designated smoking areas. My newest project is in the early stages for a municipality. They do not believe they can prohibit smoking on the property as a legal issue, though WA state already prohibits smoking within 25' of openings by law. You would think State law would be more than adequate. However, since this is a prerequisite, we need to be sure. Your comment, David, is the first that I have seen indicating that a boundary radius will work for this purpose. Have you been through review successfully with this approach? And if so, using standard non-smoking signage?
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Bethany Beers
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Fri, 10/07/2011 - 20:23

Has anyone had a successful solution to this? We're running into the same comment now.

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