Hello! I would like to ask about the 1/4 mile radius from building boundary. I have already read the article on FAQ and the one which Emily wrote, but I have a small confusion on it.
When I think of a retangular building, and if I use ArcGIS to do offset for creating 1/4 mile radius from the building boundary, the 1/4 mile radius is created like a bigger rectangular with big curved edges (so almost look like circle but not a typical circle). However if I use offset in CAD, the created 1/4 mile radius is just a larger rectangular.
So here is my question that which one is appropriate for the 1/4 mile radius. When I consider the sentence that Emily mentioned 'your radius for calculations is an offset of your boundary and will likely end up being a weird shape, rather than a typical circular radius. Hope this helps others.', I guess 'looks like a circle but not really circle' radius created from ArcGIS is appropriate for the 1/4 mile radius from building boundary, but I just want to make sure for the decision of 1/4 mile radius from building boundary.
Thank you!
emily reese moody
Sustainability Director, Certifications & ComplianceJacobs
LEEDuser Expert
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February 1, 2018 - 10:56 am
I would use the one generated in CAD, since that seems to be the true offset of the building footprint (which seems like the building is your project boundary in this case). It's been a really long time since I used GIS, but from what I remember, that's better suited for large scale planning/mapping/etc. and therefore may take some liberties with features. Maybe there are some offset settings that could be adjusted in GIS to be more exact and not round the edges, if you'd rather stick with that.
I don't think the reviewers would be too picky about just the edges, unless your calculations/services end up being borderline for compliance. The first time I had this one documented for a project, we accidentally used a regular round radius from the site. The reviewer pointed it out, but because our project was in a really dense and diverse urban location, it didn't affect compliance, so I wasn't required to fix it or resubmit.
ERM Korea
ERM Korea1 thumbs up
February 1, 2018 - 7:21 pm
Thank you very much on your comment which is based on your previous experience Emily! Your advice is really helpful for me :)
Ralph Bicknese
PrincipalHellmuth & Bicknese Architects
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June 25, 2018 - 5:29 pm
It would seem if the density boundary to be used is a 1/4 mile offset from the project boundary, it should be called an offset and not a radius. It could be interpreted as a 1/4 mile radius circle taken from each of the corners of the building, which when made into a single boundary, is an ovalish shape. The offset vs. radius creates quite different shapes, so would be beneficial to have a clearer definition. As mentioned above, if it is a dense area it might not make a big difference, but would be good to have a consistent definition.
Niraj Poudel
Sustainable Design SpecialistHOK
August 10, 2018 - 3:24 pm
Any feedback on the conversation above? Is a regular 1/4 mile offset from the project boundary accepted by USGBC? As Ralph mentions above, I am in a situation where doing an offset from the project boundary encompasses enough density to meet the threshold but a simple circular boundary with a 1/4 mile radius does not.
Thank you in advance for any feedback!
emily reese moody
Sustainability Director, Certifications & ComplianceJacobs
LEEDuser Expert
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August 10, 2018 - 6:26 pm
It is definitely an offset radius of your project boundary, not a circular radius like in previous versions. The Reference Guide is awkwardly worded.
Niraj Poudel
Sustainable Design SpecialistHOK
August 10, 2018 - 8:10 pm
Thank you Emily! I appreciate it.
Alara Brinton
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December 7, 2018 - 1:39 pm
Yes, we were also told in reviewer comments it was a 1/4 mile offset from project boundary. Also the reviewer commented that where buildings intersect the 1/4-mile offset, if the intersected property is included within the projects density calculations, the entire building area and the entire associated property area must be included. Use a similar approach when excluding intersected properties. It is recommended that a narrative be provided explaining any inclusions or exclusions."