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CS-v4 LTc4:Surrounding density and diverse uses

LEED project boundary as big as 400m radius

Dear all,

We would like to inquire about the 400m radius considerations in this credit when our LEED project boundary is almost the same size as the circle required for this credit. The dimensions of the project boundary are 580m*600m, basically it encloses all the circle’s area for this credit and not leaving us too much surrounding area to work with (we drew our circle from the center of the project boundary). Is there an alternative way to draw this radius when the project boundary is too big? For example, giving and 400m offset from the project boundary’s perimeter?

Thank you in advance!

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Thu, 01/25/2018 - 14:31

Hi Angel! You should use 400m offset, there is an answer to this issue in the FAQ: Where do we measure the radius from? In LEED 2009, we measured it from the main entry, but the LEED v4 language is different. The density radius is not from a main entry or from the center of the project site. It's based upon an offset from the LEED project boundary. Because of this, it will likely end up being a weird shape, rather than a typical circle. Also note that measurement to basic services are based upon walking distance rather than a radius.   BR Martina

Wed, 10/13/2021 - 15:34

I am also confused, what exactly is "an offset from the LEED project boundary?"  I understand this is different than a circular radius measured from the center of the project, but I am still unclear how you are supposed to determine the density offset and why that would likely end up being a weird shape. Thank you! Courtney

Wed, 10/13/2021 - 15:43

Hi Courtney, the offset would basically be 400m / 0.25 mi from the LEED boundary line in any direction. A "buffer" function in a GIS program could do this, or you could do it manually in a graphics or PDF editor by taking a few line measurements from the boundary and connecting them.    I think these illustrations are good - they're from the LEED-ND rating system but it;s the same kind of offset.  LEED boundary: https://usgbc-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/usgbc.org/images/landing-pages/guidepages/nd/GS12_Previously+Developed+(Getting+Started+Figure+2)_rev.jpg And a 1/2 mile offset: https://usgbc-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/usgbc.org/images/landing-pages/guidepages/nd/GS15_Infill_rev.jpg   You can see it's not a perfect circle because it's drawn from the boundary line and not a center point.  

Wed, 10/13/2021 - 15:44

oops, that 1st link didn't work, it's figure 2 here: https://www.usgbc.org/guide/nd 

Wed, 10/13/2021 - 15:56

Hi Courtney, For another approach, you should draw a 1/4 mile (400-meter) circle at each outside corner of your LEED boundary, and offset all of the straight edges by the same distance. Use the circles to connect the straight sides - or fillet. a square boundary, your offset may look like a circle. If your boundary is a rectangle, the offset may look like an oval (or stadium shape).  - Kara

Wed, 10/13/2021 - 16:47

Ok, got it!!! Thank you so much, Emily and Kara!  I felt so silly asking but i truly did not understand what the language meant. Unfortunatly the reference guide assumed one would know and the review comment repeated the information.  Thanks again!

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