I registered a project under LEEDv4 (#100038645) because my anticipated completion was past the LEEDv4 sunset date. Now that the registration deadline for LEED 2009 has been extended to 10/31/16, I assume the corresponding sunset date has been extended to 10/31/22 or thereabouts. The project and associated documentation should be complete prior to the LEED 2009 revised sunset date. I would like to change my project registration from LEEDv4 to LEED 2009. Any word as to whether this will be possible?
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Tiombe Parrish
Sustainability Group LeaderJacobs
18 thumbs up
October 29, 2014 - 10:20 am
Hi Perrilyn!
I also registered a project in v4 anticipating that the sunset date would occur before we begin design. Given this extension and the fact that it is a design build project, we will likely be into construction documentation before the new 2016 sunset date. I am hoping that the process for reverting to v2009 is painless.
Tristan, any insight on this?
Tristan Roberts
RepresentativeVermont House of Representatives
LEEDuser Expert
11478 thumbs up
October 29, 2014 - 9:05 pm
Tiombe and Perrilyn, I don't have any definite information but based on what I have seen from LEED customer service over the last couple years I think they will be sensitive to this, and allow you to change your registration to v2009. I would contact GBCI through their website and request this, if that's what you want.
P Fanfulik
PE, LEED AP BD+CWMATA
8 thumbs up
October 30, 2014 - 7:51 am
Thank you Tristan for the reply. I have the same question into USGBC and I will post their response.
Barry Giles
Founder & CEO, LEED Fellow, BREEAM FellowBuildingWise LLC
LEEDuser Expert
338 thumbs up
October 30, 2014 - 7:12 pm
Are we seriously suggesting that we are going to allow registrations to back slide?
Tristan Roberts
RepresentativeVermont House of Representatives
LEEDuser Expert
11478 thumbs up
October 30, 2014 - 10:59 pm
Barry, I would see it as backsliding if registrations for LEED 2009 had closed and were being reopened.What has come up here are cases where registration for both systems was open, a choice was made, and now USGBC has changed the program. If USGBC and membership wants to prevent folks like this switching from v4 to v2009, it should be done on the merits (such as those that have been mentioned here), and not happenstance.
Barry Giles
Founder & CEO, LEED Fellow, BREEAM FellowBuildingWise LLC
LEEDuser Expert
338 thumbs up
November 4, 2014 - 6:04 pm
Tristan, I don't totally disagree...it's more the 'unintended consequences' that come up. Primarily this is a timing issue with our larger clients who we have been working with us on re-certification. Having set re-certification calenders on 4.5 million square feet, funded those calenders based on the dropping of V3 and now to find all that is reversed leaves us in difficult positions.
On one hand the delay MAY help the client....on the other will there be further changes or a reversal of the v4 to v3 slippage next week when the board meet to review the input?
The lack of clear leadership is disconcerting.
Brian Salazar
President, LEED AP, WELL APEntegra Development & Investment, LLC
56 thumbs up
November 4, 2014 - 6:13 pm
Hi Berry, v4 is still available. Question is, why would you want to?
Barry Giles
Founder & CEO, LEED Fellow, BREEAM FellowBuildingWise LLC
LEEDuser Expert
338 thumbs up
November 4, 2014 - 6:28 pm
Brian...After X number of years working with TAGs and volunteers and staff to get the darn thing out into the marketplace I'm dammed if I going to let a very small cadre p**s all over it!
We committed to signing up as many clients as we could in Version 4 and we succeeded with not just the first but the first and the second Version 4 Platinums'....trouble is and what really upsets the whole apple cart is that both of them were LEED EB...the very rating system that USGBC is sidelining with dynamic plaque.
There are NO PROBLEMS running version 4 in EB...none. In several cases the credits are actually easier...and yes I know the Energy Star went to 75.
So, 'why would I want to?...because it's a leadership position and if USGBC management don't want to lead well nuts to them 'cause I do!
P Fanfulik
PE, LEED AP BD+CWMATA
8 thumbs up
November 7, 2014 - 7:05 am
Response from USGBC regarding moving from LEEDv4 to LEED 2009 is as follows:
Project data cannot be moved between platforms; however, the project can be re-registered in LEED 2009.
1. Back-up all documentation presently uploaded within the project. Please note that any documentation uploaded to LEED Online and any information in the forms will be lost as part of this process.
2. Re-register the project in LEED 2009.
3. E-mail copy of invoice.
4. A refund of registration fees already paid for the existing project will be processed.
5. USGBC will deactivate the old project.
Please note that you must contact USGBC directly to facilitate this process as there is a reference number/subject line associated with the project for tracking purposes.