I have just added an FAQ to our guidance above, at GBCI's suggestion. If anyone's wondering why they get questioned when extraction and manufacturing distances are the same for steel or aluminum products, see the answer above!
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Keith Lindemulder
Environmental Business Development- LEED AP BD&CNucor Corporation
193 thumbs up
May 8, 2013 - 6:46 pm
I typed a long response that somehow didn't post...but before I type it again, how many times are projects "questioned" on this issue?
I can think of several legitimate situations where the "recovery" location and "final manufacturing" location would be the same.
Even more difficult is it's rare that scrap steel is collected in a single location. More often scrap is recovered and processed in MANY locations many of which can be within 500 miles of the job. So there won't be a 'single zip code' to enter into the form. In those cases, I have heard project teams will enter the zip code of the mill in the form.
I sincerely wish USGBC and/or GBCI would consult the market before issuing blanket (often vague) guidance......
Tristan Roberts
RepresentativeVermont House of Representatives
LEEDuser Expert
11477 thumbs up
May 9, 2013 - 10:22 am
Keith, I don't think GBCI is disallowing this kind of data entry. It just raises a flag for them and they might ask project teams to verify the information. "Yes, I really meant that, and here's why."Not saying this is the best possibly approach, but it's routine for questions like this to come up.
USGBC National Office (in DC) BG+LU FW
U.S. Green Building CouncilUSGBC
7 thumbs up
May 9, 2013 - 4:54 pm
Hello, Keith you are correct that sometimes the extraction and manufacture location are the same, however the more common case found in documentation is that the project team does not know the extraction location and re-enters the manufacturing location incorrectly. This is a red flag for reviewers. Thanks for the FAQ addition Tristan!
Susan Walter
HDRLEEDuser Expert
1296 thumbs up
July 24, 2013 - 10:01 am
Keith - Short answer is every project review recently has been dinged on this exact issue for steel. It is a big deal.
USGBC IP - Yes, entering the manufacturing location as the extraction is usually the wrong thing. You're right to question. What I don't understand, particularly in light of LI 100,000,379 that states the 'extraction point for recycled materials is location of the raw material prior to the manufacturing of the final building product' why we get questioned on the coil location as the extraction point and the mill as the manufacturing point.