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NC-2009 SSc4.1:Alternative Transportation—Public Transportation Access

Bus transfers

I have a campus project with public bus service on all sides and one through the middle. A person can walk to three bus stops serving 2 public bus lines and the campus shuttle within 1/4 mile. What I'm looking for is research on whether I could also count a 4th bus stop that serves a 3rd public bus line. This stop is .27 miles from the building, but could be accessed by getting on one of the public buses at a closer stop, riding 2 blocks on campus, and then change to a public bus on the 3rd line. The rest of the "shutle" variables seem to be met, less than 2 miles, ride of 5 - 10 minutes, available to everyone, etc. I know that bus transfers to other bus lines at hubs are not allowed, but does anyone have experience with or an opinion of an on-campus transfer like this?

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Wed, 02/20/2013 - 19:52

Tiffany,  my take on this is that it doesn't meet the letter of the LEED requirements, but that it does seem to be an factor that opens up more options for occupants with pretty much equivalent convenience to the credit requirements. If you emphasize this and the credit intent, I think it could be accepted by the LEED reviewer.If you need it to be, that is, don't you already earn the credit without that? Or are you going for EP?

Wed, 02/20/2013 - 20:00

Thanks, Tristan. Yes, we are going for EP on this one. I can actually make this work using the campus shuttle, but it takes a longer route. I think I can narrate this to meet the intent by showing that students could get to the additional bus that way, but are more likely to use the transfer, which is faster. (Technically, they are going to walk the additional .02 miles and just get on the bus they want, right?) I appreciate the feedback.

Wed, 02/20/2013 - 22:32

I have one more question on the shuttle documentation for EP. In the process of counting rides, do we include the number of rides for the shuttle that picks the students up AND the number of rides provided by the public bus they are shuttled to? That seems to be a potential "double-dip", but I haven't seen any guidance on this aspect.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 03:55

Just basing my answer on common sense without double-checking documentation requirements, but it does seem like a double dip.

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