Have anyone used another reference other than the ASHRAE standard 62 for a hospital project. The rooms in our hospital are not compliant with the standard rooms of table 6.1. We have a local regulation that we have to follow for all rooms, but it only has requirements on the number of persons in the room. We are not designing according to ASHRAE 170.

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Susann Geithner

Principal

Emerald Built Environments

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Mon, 09/19/2011 - 14:01

If you want to use another standard than ASHRAE, you will have to show that your local code/standard exceeds ASHRAE requirements. That might be difficult to accomplish, if you are comparing apple with oranges. Also as you have noted your rooms don't meet ASHRAE standards. So showing that your local code meets ASHRAE standard is out of question, I suppose.

Veronika Sundberg

Environmental Engineer - Certification

Skanska Sverige AB

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Tue, 09/27/2011 - 08:49

Exactly most of our rooms don’t meet the definition in table 6.1. We are thinking about writing a CIR and show the rooms where we can follow ASHRAE and then state for all others we will follow the local code, since we can’t compare apples with oranges. Thank you Susann!

Jenna Cramer

VP of Green Schools

Green Building Alliance

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Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:51

We are running into the same problem as Veronika. Is there an official answer to this problem?

Roger Chang

Principal, Energy and Engineering Leader

DLR Group | Westlake Reed Leskosky

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Wed, 11/02/2011 - 19:42

Veronika, is your project in the United States? Could you provide a few examples of the kinds of spaces that are not referenced in Table 6-1 of ASHRAE 62.1?

Veronika Sundberg

Environmental Engineer - Certification

Skanska Sverige AB

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Thu, 11/03/2011 - 08:04

No, our project is not located in the US. Most of the rooms are rooms with clinical requirements. We have a specifc guidelines for rooms with clinical requirments that we are following. The Ashrae 170, is not applicable on our project. the Requirments are in many cases to stringent regarding RH values.

Susan Walter

HDR

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Thu, 11/03/2011 - 18:24

We run into this all the time as well. We often have to apply a different default and explain why based on the building's use. An easy example, linear accelerators are modeled as medical procedure rooms. ASHRAE doesn't list the lin accs and this makes the most sense to all. Hope this helps.

Veronika Sundberg

Environmental Engineer - Certification

Skanska Sverige AB

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Mon, 11/07/2011 - 12:24

Great Susan, Are you referring to the Normative Appendix E? We have been thinking about following that one. So in the states, there are hospitals that do not need to meet ASHRAE 170? I thought t´his was just a problem for hospitals outside the states.

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