When reporting for the wall, ceiling category under Option 1, do all of the interior partition components need to be complaint- the gypsum board, the tape, the joint compound, the studs and the paint? If so, has anyone come across a drywall tape that has the TVOC certificate?
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John-David Hutchison, LEED AP BD+C, PMP
Sustainability ManagerBGIS
LEEDuser Expert
166 thumbs up
June 26, 2017 - 5:21 pm
Technically, yes, all components must be compliant - although, I would not bother to list the drywall tape as it is inherently inert. but if you are asked for the info in a review (which I highly doubt) a MSDS/SDS should be available ( USG has for their products for example)
LUCY WILLIAMS
PrincipalLucy C. Williams, Architect
40 thumbs up
June 26, 2017 - 5:29 pm
Typically MSDS/ SDS do not list TVOC amounts, but I think I understand you are indicating this is an inert product. Has anyone been audited on this product type- drywall tape?
Tim Nabholz
Associate - SustainabilityIntegral Group
9 thumbs up
May 7, 2018 - 1:18 pm
Has anyone been audited in regards to the Drywall Tape TVOC?
Vanessa Nelson
LEEDuser Expert
7 thumbs up
June 7, 2018 - 9:52 pm
Under credit requirements, walls are listed as only requiring emissions testing, not TVOC. The wall paint of course would require both.
Sara Greenwood
Cadmus Group16 thumbs up
June 15, 2018 - 3:36 pm
Hello, I have been grappling with this as well. So for walls and ceilings - if they are tested to UL Greenguard Gold for example - but do not have the TVOC ranges, how should this be documented in the Low-Emitting calculator?
Vanessa Nelson
LEEDuser Expert
7 thumbs up
June 15, 2018 - 4:17 pm
For walls and ceilings on an NC project the Ref guide lists emissions requirements, not TVOC. Of course any associated paints, coatings, adhesives and sealants need to meet both. See Table 1 here: https://leeduser.buildinggreen.com/credit/NC-v4/EQc2#tab-credit-language
Ryan Harrington
7 thumbs up
April 25, 2019 - 1:22 pm
I may be wrong but doesn't general emissions equal CDPH v1.1 testing which is TVOC? TVOC is a quantity representation of the CDPH test?
That being said a good way to make sure products meet general emissions, is to select products that have CDPH v1.1 or 1.2 certs.
Reinhard Oppl
Independent consultant on VOC issuesformerly with Eurofins Product Testing A/S
329 thumbs up
April 28, 2019 - 5:02 pm
There might be some misunderstanding.
CDPH is one option to show compliance with LEED Genereal Emissions requirements. CDPH does not include a TVOC limit. It has limits only for 35 individual VOC substances. LEED requires disclosure of the TVOC range on top of that (and CDPH describes how to test it). The test lab should have that data in their test report, to make it useable for LEED purposes.
This was about VOC emissions. There are limits for VOC content in the product for wall paints and others on top of VOC emissions, but they do not call this TVOC. It is just called VOC content.
Teresa Stern
Artist, Curator, WriterTeresa Stern Arts
19 thumbs up
June 14, 2019 - 5:58 pm
The Greenguard Gold certificate will typically list the TVOC tested range; this must be entered into the LEED LEM calculator. There is no limit, but the data is required nonetheless.
Stephanie Graham
Sustainability ManagerBurns & McDonnell
26 thumbs up
June 21, 2019 - 7:08 pm
I have never provided drywall tape, but I have provided drywall compounds in the past. I have never been asked about drywall tape, nor audited.
Stephanie Graham
Sustainability ManagerBurns & McDonnell
26 thumbs up
June 21, 2019 - 7:13 pm
Sara, I have had this issue, too. When I have asked the UL/SCS or other testing organizations for the testing results, most say that I will have to ask the manufacturer, as the manufacturer owns the test information and they cannot provide it to me. Needless to say, I usually don't get anywhere with these requests. It is frustrating.
Debra a. Lombard
Construction Administrator/ LEED APBywater Woodworks, Inc.
47 thumbs up
June 24, 2019 - 10:10 am
Most all of the time when I've requested test info from Mfgrs' that do provide that. And in one case VOC testing was not done and the mfgr wanted us to use their product & thus they paid for their own product to be tested for the needed test data for LEED.
Kavita K
DesignerTappe Architects
2 thumbs up
August 5, 2019 - 4:12 pm
Do the metal studs in the exterior and interior walls also have to be compliant? Wouldn't the studs be inherently non-emitting? In Table 5 (Building products and systems) in the RG under the exceptions column, 'bare concrete or metal structural elements' have been listed as Testing not required. So can we consider the metal studs and any metal accessories as compliant without any further documentation?
Adam Yarnell
Sustainability ConsultantSteven Winter Associates
12 thumbs up
August 13, 2019 - 12:38 pm
Hi Kavita, I agree with your assessment. The reference guide defines "powder-coated metals, plated or anodized metals" as inherently non-emitting and exempt from VOC emissions testing, provided the metals have no "integral organic-based surface coatings, binders, or sealants." Metal fasteners certainly fall into this category. Good luck with documentation!
Kavita K
DesignerTappe Architects
2 thumbs up
August 13, 2019 - 4:44 pm
Great. Thanks Adam!
Tom Gibbons
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December 16, 2020 - 12:18 pm
Hi folks - felt like my issue best fit as a continuation of the above.
Having some discussions come up within the team regarding gypsum sheathing. On the project, the sheathing is inside the moisture barrier which of course leads me to believe that it needs to meet emissions testing / CDPH for the "ceilings, walls, thermal & acoustic insulation" category in V4. I also see that sheathing is shown inside the barrier in the wall diagrams in the ref guide.
However, the more I read the guide the more I'm beginning to doubt that. The examples given for Walls in Table 5 note "exposed" elements and the "wall component" examples are all interior-facing (a gyp wall with acoustic panels adhered to it for example). In LEED v4.1 they've changed to "wall panels" which looks to focus mostly on finish-wall surfaces which makes me think perhaps v4 means to exclude an internal wall component like gypsum sheathing. This also being pushed by submittals - I'm getting a lot of Greenguard Gold for interior gypsum but they're proposing a gypsum sheathing that is only Greenguard (not Gold - hence I don't believe it complies with CDPH). Any help?
Iris Meeker
Director of SustainabilityWalker Architects
3 thumbs up
January 28, 2022 - 10:05 am
I also have the same question as posed by Tom above re: sheathing and v4.1. Any insight would be appreciated!
Tommy Linstroth
CEOGreen Badger
LEEDuser Expert
126 thumbs up
January 28, 2022 - 10:56 am
We typically exclude any exterior sheathing from the walls category. The only time we include it is if it is used on the interior for shaftliner applications, etc. Haven't had it commented on yet, for what its worht.