Hi!
I have prepared the ID-credit according to the text in EBOM v2009, but now realize that the approved credit for v2009 CS projects is “purchasing lamps” according to v4. Can I no longer go for the v2009 version of the ID credit when my project is v2009? https://www.usgbc.org/credits/core-and-shell/v2009/innovation-catalog
V4 has no sample form that I can use to show credit compliance, and it requires us to show the lease agreement with our future tenants showing they will use low-mercury lamps. https://www.usgbc.org/node/5318467?return=/credits/core-and-shell/v2009/innovation-catalog I don’t really want to involve the tenants, although they most likely will have only LED lamps, because the owner is not keen that we put in more regulations in the contracts. 70 or 90 pictograms of mercury per lumen-hour doesn’t really matter since we have LED only – no mercury.
Thank you!
emily reese moody
Sustainability Director, Certifications & ComplianceJacobs
LEEDuser Expert
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January 16, 2018 - 12:54 pm
What I've seen in my 2009 projects that pursued this credit has been pretty consistent. We had already documented the effort via the EBOM materials like you describe, and submitted that (usually before we were aware that it had been officially moved to the Innovation Catalog). Those responses fussed at us for not using the updated criteria, and required us to transfer info to the updated version tools and requirements and resubmit. For my projects, compliance with the lower threshold (it's now 35 pg, not 70 like before) has not yet been an issue, since they've all been mostly or entirely LED, and end up way below the required threshold max. The now-required tenant sales agreement is annoying to say the least, especially since many CS projects don't have tenants engaged yet when this credit is submitted.
To save everyone's (yours and the reviewers) time and effort, I recommend that you go ahead and use the Innovation Catalog requirements. https://www.usgbc.org/node/5318467?return=/credits/core-and-shell/v2009/...
There is a newer calculator available under the "Resources" button, but there is no form like before. Similar to many other v4 credits, GBCI created an offline tool to do actual calcs rather than have it on a template. Like before, you will not be expected to fill out all sections of the calculator, since they will not all apply to a CS project like they would for EBOM.
If you need to buy a little more time and your whole submission is waiting on this item, you could submit the calculator, cut sheets, etc. without the lease agreement part, knowing that it will come back as a comment. That way, you could at least be working on attaining the signed versions in the meantime.
Maria Porter
Sustainability specialistSkanska Sweden
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January 22, 2018 - 7:15 am
Thank you Emily for your response!
Where do you see the 35 pg? I can only read 70 and it was 90 in the old version? (Maybe for EP?)
Anyway, we have LED only, but not all are more efficient than their conventional counterparts. Where on earth did I read that they have to be more efficient?
And the lease agreement part will probably not work for my projects, so perhaps if I just say that we upload the tenant information (purchased lamps) in construction instead, and submit the base building lamps now? Hopefully we will know more by then. Otherwise we'll have to find another innnovation credit...
/Maria
emily reese moody
Sustainability Director, Certifications & ComplianceJacobs
LEEDuser Expert
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January 24, 2018 - 1:59 am
Hi Maria,
On the webpage provided above, there's a lightly outlined box around text that states "To earn innovation credit, projects must meet the exemplary performance threshold noted above."
We formerly had to submit cut sheets for equivalent fluorescent (or other standard) fixtures to prove that the LEDs selected were, indeed, more efficient than their popular counterparts; in short, we couldn't just assume that b/c they were LED, they were better. That's probably why it's stuck in your head.
As for your strategy, if you need to submit sooner than later, you could always take your approach to keep things rolling, see what the reviewers come back with, and adjust for the resubmission or defer the resubmission until the construction phase, basically putting the ID credit on pause between phases. Only downside to that, is that you'll still only get the one chance after initial submission to either edit the credit, or drop it and pursue a different one.
Edgar Arevalo
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August 13, 2019 - 11:41 am
Regarding this matter, I too am working on a Core&Shell project and I am pursuing the O+M v4 Purchasing-Lamp credit as an ID credit. When I take a look at an offline template of the LEED Online form for this credit under O+M v4, it doesn't mention anywhere to upload a Lamp Purchasing Plan but to upload only the purchasing calculator. That was a requirement under the O+M v2009 LEED Online form, along with the purchasing calculator. Could I then just upload the purchasing calculator for my project, along with cutsheets of fluorescent counterparts that are less efficient, and skip the Lamp Purchasing Plan?