I am working on a multifamily building. The proposed system is a Rooftop unit with constant vlume and 100% outdoor air. No return or exhaust and a set SA CFM.
My question is whether in this case, since the supply air and the ventilation CFM are equal; I should model the baseline supply air CFM with the calculated CFM, based on the 20 degree delta T, or using the same SA CFM as in the proposed building.
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Marcus Sheffer
LEED Fellow7group / Energy Opportunities
LEEDuser Expert
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June 14, 2013 - 3:01 pm
The baseline needs to follow the Appendix G rules. So it is a system 1 or 2 and it needs to be auto-sized by the software according to G3.1.2.8.
Jean Marais
b.i.g. Bechtold DesignBuilder Expert832 thumbs up
July 10, 2013 - 2:08 am
Related question...for a naturally ventilated building without "mechanical" cooling:
1) the "mechanical" ventilation requirement of both proposed and baseline models is zero, as the ventilation is done via windows in both proposed and baseline models.
2) the proposed model includes the baseline system for cooling which jumps on when the "natural" cooling via windows cannot hold setpoint (all be it never as we can set the setpoint for cooling high enough...although I prefer to keep with the intent of 90.1 to provide cooling when user thermal comfort is in jeopardy...bearing in mind that statistical users 10% "dissatisfied" are at different temperatures, i.e. more extreme, in naturally ventilated spaces...ASHRAE 55, AM 10).
Note: The cooling system includes the entire cooling system...possibly with economizer, heat recovery, etc.
Q) G3.1.2.4 Fan System Operation
Will the baseline and proposed fans both come on continously during occupied hours? As the minimum "mechanical" ODA is set to zero, this fan will basically be mindlessly blowing air in circles during the non-heating occupied hours.
My opinion is that fans should be set to cycle to meet loads in both models.
As G3.1.2.4 is a baseline requirement, the best outcome for credit would be to set the proposed case to cycle and the baseline case to be continous during occupation hours.
Marcus Sheffer
LEED Fellow7group / Energy Opportunities
LEEDuser Expert
5909 thumbs up
July 10, 2013 - 9:54 am
We agree with your opinion. Without mechanical ventilation the fans should cycle in both models all the time.
Jean Marais
b.i.g. Bechtold DesignBuilder Expert832 thumbs up
July 11, 2013 - 4:22 am
thanks