Proof of 3rd party Cx was requested by a Reviewer in a 2009 project. I'm no longer seeing this mentioned in v4... or is it implicit?
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Candice Rogers
PresidentPaladin, Inc
21 thumbs up
November 5, 2020 - 2:17 pm
For v4 under Fundamental Commissioning and Verification, renewables are required system (if included in the project). Consequently, they should be included in the process. The uploads which confirm their inclusion are listed in the Reference Manual. (i.e. systems lists, cx plan, documentation of testing and verification, etc.) Very best with your project!
Joyce Kelly
Architect - Cx Provider - Green Building SpecialistGLHN Architects & Engineers
26 thumbs up
November 5, 2020 - 5:18 pm
That makes perfect sense, Candice. Leaping to 4.1 and off-site renewables with RECs owned by organization seeking credit for several currently registered buildings - do you think we still need to prove these were 3rd party commissioned for any individual building to receive credit?
Candice Rogers
PresidentPaladin, Inc
21 thumbs up
November 5, 2020 - 5:55 pm
Good question. I am not seeing that the off-site renewable is specifically identified. The way I would approach this is via intent: 1) are the renewables owned? In that case, I would apply the same logic of District Energy Systems where new equipment to serve the project is included in cx scope and existing equipment has been functionally tested in last (I think) 5 years. 2) Are the renewables contracted? Then, the project has no control over the construction or maintenance of these and therefore could not require them to be commissioned.
In either case, the presence of commissioning would serve the project in ensuring the anticipated performance is realized from the installation.
Erica Downs
Sustainability ConsultantThe Green Engineer
4 thumbs up
February 10, 2022 - 2:09 pm
@Joyce Kelly - wondering how this panned out for you? Were you able to claim credit for the offsite system without documenting commissioning? Thx!
Joyce Kelly
Architect - Cx Provider - Green Building SpecialistGLHN Architects & Engineers
26 thumbs up
February 11, 2022 - 2:52 pm
I recently heard that detailed, internal Cx documentation was provided and approved for some offsite renewables associated with a power purchase agreement for our Client. I'll be testing this myself in the next month.