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NC-2009 SSc1:Site Selection

Previously developed?

We are working in project within a universitary campus. The particular site has been a deposit of soil from other building construccion, is surronded by road access and is used as a informal paking lot. Although nothing was ever built in this site, i understand that i can consider this site as previously developed, since the human intervencion has already damaged the natural caracteristics of the original site. Do you consider my considerations correct?

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Tue, 05/15/2012 - 10:49

The definition says that "land use that would typically have required regulatory permitting to have been initiated" this would be the case of a parquing lot, at least here in Spain. There is a real damage related to the parking like, for example, the lost of engine oil in the soil... Would LEED consider this correct reasoning?

Thu, 05/31/2012 - 20:07

I would agree with you. Your site is consider previously developed, if a parking lot was located on it before. But be careful with the new definition per addendum 11/1/2011 "altered landscapes resulting from current or historical clearing or filling .. are considered undeveloped land."

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:47

Thanks Susann! We've recently discovered that previously there was an archery field instaled on the site, also that there is an underground electric line instaled. Would these activities/instalations also count to justify "non previously developed"?

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 21:11

The utility line (electric line) makes it previously developed. So you are good.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 00:58

Hi Sussan, I have a similar situation to the one above. We are working on a project with a site at the edge of a university campus. There is a parking lot and we are just on the other side of it. Our site seems to have been a dumping ground for fill dirt over the years, which I know does not allow us to call it previously developed, and there was never a building located there. But there is a 5'x5' storm drain located approx. 50' into our site with a buried 36" concrete pipe running from it. From what I can tell, our site should be considered previously developed because of this. Is this correct?

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 19:48

If the storm drain was a permitted alteration, so it's in the cities maps and drawings, for sure I would consider it previously developed. Just be careful to not stretch it to far. if the pipe is only going through a small part of a large site, than I would consider it a stretch and the reviewer may see it the same way. I hope that helps.

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