Hello Eliot!
Does LEED ND prohibit having parking pens on the development main entrances???
The project is located in Mexico and is very common to have parking pens in all big developments due to security reasons. That´s why we are wondering what does LEED ND say about them. It is very probable that the project we are working on will requiere them.
Many thanks!
Ana
Eliot Allen
LEED AP-ND, PrincipalCriterion Planners
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April 6, 2017 - 4:48 pm
Hi Ana. I'm not familiar with a parking pen. Is it a parking lot with a security fence?
Eliot
Ana Paula Quiros
Architect, LEED AP BD+CLivet Consulting
April 12, 2017 - 4:24 pm
Hi Eliot! By 'parking pen' I meant a vehicular control access system that would be in all main vehicular entrances. Many thanks! Ana
Eliot Allen
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April 13, 2017 - 11:01 am
Ana, there's nothing in NPDc5 or 6 that prohibits or limits the controlling of access to parking facilities for security purposes. The only thing to be watchful of is making sure that circulation network intersections being counted toward connectivity are located outside of the controlled access area, and are therefore not considered gated.
Eliot
Ana Paula Quiros
Architect, LEED AP BD+CLivet Consulting
April 20, 2017 - 2:12 pm
Many thanks :)
Ana Paula Quiros
Architect, LEED AP BD+CLivet Consulting
April 24, 2017 - 3:28 pm
The access control devices woould not be located just in parking facilities, they would also be located in the development main entraces, does it affect credit compliance?
The other thing that we are worried about is if there is a problem having fences in all the project perimeter...I understand that LEED prohibits them, but in Mexico there is no way to have a development with this characteristics...
Eliot Allen
LEED AP-ND, PrincipalCriterion Planners
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April 25, 2017 - 11:05 am
Ana, it sounds like you may have an issue with NPDp3 as well as NPDc6. Under NPDp3, at least 90% of internal circulation networks counted toward connectivity must be available for general public use and not gated. So your situation depends on whether the "access control devices" function as gates and in any way restrict free public movement at any time. Regarding your perimeter fence, such a fence is not prohibited, but the prerequisite also requires a public through-connection at least every 800 ft. on the project boundary. So the fence would need unrestricted public access points at those or shorter intervals. I understand the security issue you describe for projects in Mexico, and you could try a CIR arguing for the security exemption that education and health care campuses have, but I wouldn't be optimistic about that route.
Eliot