Dear all partner, would you like to explain to me this requirement for office building for our specific case. If our building have the response of building structure, and the fitour work for office tenants will be done by the tenant. So in this case, how we can submit this to LEED online? Can we submit docs. after we finish building structure? OR we need to wait until all spaces is rent and fit out by all tenants?
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Tristan Roberts
RepresentativeVermont House of Representatives
LEEDuser Expert
11475 thumbs up
June 14, 2010 - 9:29 am
Fabio, what you are describing sounds a like a core & shell project (CS). In LEED-CS, this credit does not exist, which would indicate to me that LEED does not see a way for you to earn it in the type of project you're describing. Should you be using LEED-CS for this project?
Fabio Frescia
Sustainable Engineer53 thumbs up
June 17, 2010 - 12:44 am
Dear Tristan and all partners.
I'm very happy with your instruction. Tristan's opinion is quite useful.
So, just existed one problem that I'm not clear for our project is: the building with total area is: 23,090 m2, including: Basement: 4,284 m2; office: 11,823 m2 (leasable area: 9,459 m2; service area is occupied by owner is 2,364 m2); and apartment: 6,190 m2 (corridor is 928.5 m2)
My question is: For this type of building, what rating we will use?
As my understanding, area is occupied by owner is 33%, and the rest is for lease; so we will use LEED core and shell. But we also include apartment in our building. So which one is the best application under LEED.
Tristan Roberts
RepresentativeVermont House of Representatives
LEEDuser Expert
11475 thumbs up
June 20, 2010 - 11:11 pm
I would agree that because the largest part of the project is Core and Shell development, this is an appropriate rating system.However, since an equal square footage is full constructed office space and apartment space, I would say you could probably pursue LEED-NC.I would check with GBCI, and/or use the selection tool that you can go through when registering on LEED Online.
Fabio Frescia
Sustainable Engineer53 thumbs up
June 24, 2010 - 5:35 am
Dear Tristan,
I understand that my project will apply LEED new construction, so would you like to go back my question at the beginning?
""For office area, If our building have the response of building structure, and the fitour work for office tenants will be done by the tenant. So in this case, how we can submit this to LEED online? Can we submit docs. after we finish building structure? OR we need to wait until all spaces is rent and fit out by all tenants?"""
Thanks.
Lauren Sparandara
Sustainability ManagerGoogle
LEEDuser Expert
997 thumbs up
June 25, 2010 - 5:04 pm
Hi Fabio,
I'm not sure I understand the entire chain but basically my advice would be to either to do LEED-CS and just include the building structure and core work and submit when that work is complete or do LEED-NC and wait until the entire building is completed.
In order to do LEED-NC you need the building to be occupied with its tenants and completed.
Hope that answers your question.
kathy zarsky
Systems DirectorHOLOS
15 thumbs up
May 13, 2011 - 5:45 pm
I'm working on a project with open plan workstations, however, the workstations are most likely owner provided so outside of our contract. NC traditionally allows for elective inclusion of furnishings in calculations for this very reason, but EQc6.1 requirements are a bit ambiguous for this circumstance. Can you confirm if task lighting needs to be documented for owner supplied workstations outside of our contract? Thanks.
Lauren Sparandara
Sustainability ManagerGoogle
LEEDuser Expert
997 thumbs up
May 16, 2011 - 4:41 pm
Hi Kathy,
Yes, this can be a tricky grey area. The important point is consistency across all credits. Are you excluding all owner provided items from all LEED credits? If you are, then you should be fine to exclude them for EQc6.1 as well. Make sure not to show any workstation furniture in any of your uploaded drawings or the reviewer will get confused.
For LEED-CS projects, where the tenant will be providing items like furniture and task lights, I just make sure that they are consistently omitted and I make sure that I make the argument that the furniture layout and task light purchases are simply undefined at this point.
To earn this credit you'll also have to show that the credit is still applicable to your project scope. Do you have some "individual workstations" in the form of individual offices? Do you have other spaces that you know are going to meeting rooms that you can have meet the multi-occupant space definition? Unfortunately, you cannot earn without having some applicability.
Hope that helps a bit.
Lauren
Nathan Lee
Project EngineerSGS Korea
56 thumbs up
November 2, 2011 - 9:27 pm
I am having a similar issue as Fabio did. We have a mixed use building:
-50% Un-constructed Office
-10% Resturant
-15% Retail
-25% Hotel
The design is still Pre-SD/SD so it is changing everyday, but for now we are preparing to pursue LEED NC. In this case, would/could the office space be considered as LEED CS? If so would we be able to just provide the applicable credits for the applicable areas?