In review comments recently received by our team for a LEED-CI Retail project, the following portions have confused us:
1. "Products from _____ vendor... have the same extraction and manufacture distance. It is not clear that the products would be extracted and manufactured from the same location."
This comment is in reference to furniture that is 100% reused, relocated from one of the client's existing office locations. None of these items were purchased new for the project, however, a price quote from the original vendor was provided as a value reference to help calculate the % of reused furniture.
Are we incorrect to list both the manufactured and extraction location as the identical address of the previous office where the furniture was located?
2. "Several of the materials appear to be assemblies and the individual raw components of the product are not separated by the weight of the material (.... Metal Stud, Ceiling Frame...)"
We understand that we must separate the listed assemblies now within our documentation, but both our metal studs and ceiling frame (grid between ACT) are all metal materials.
Are we supposed to provide an assembly breakdown for a metal stud?
Any guidance would be appreciated!
Tristan Roberts
RepresentativeVermont House of Representatives
LEEDuser Expert
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November 21, 2011 - 10:26 pm
Jason, I may be missing something, but I would have thought that this credit was documented properly based on what you describe.
Amanda Lehman
Green Building ConsultantFore Solutions
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November 23, 2011 - 1:49 pm
Jason, according to the LEED 2009 ID+C Reference Guide (pg 255), “Use the location from which [the reused and salvaged materials] were salvaged as the point of extraction, and use the location of the salvaged goods vendor as the point of manufacture.” Based on this information, you will need to revise the manufacture distance listed on the template to the location of the vendor. It may be worth providing the language from the Reference Guide in your response to the GBCI reviewer.
In response to your 2nd question, you do not need to breakdown the assembly of a metal stud. The assembly needs to be broken down into subcomponents only (using the weight of the component elements). In a ceiling assembly this would be ceiling frame, ceiling tiles, etc.
To avoid an appeal, you may wish to contact your GBCI review team directly by clicking on the Feedback link in LEED Online. Be sure to specify the project name and ID number.
Simon Sue
SL+A INTERNATIONAL ASIA INC.411 thumbs up
November 23, 2011 - 9:01 pm
Thank you both for your input.
We have revised the re-used furniture manufacturing and extraction distances as you've suggested.
However - for the metal studs and the ceiling frame, these items are all metal. The ceiling frame is listed separately from the ceiling tiles as you've mentioned. We have already used the contact links within LEED online to submit this question to our reviewers, but have received zero response in over a week.
We will just have to move forward with the metal items (non-assemblies) and hope for the best.
Emily Catacchio
Sustainability SpecialistWight and Company
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November 23, 2011 - 11:02 pm
Hi Jason,Did you use the "message" system within LEED-Online v3 to communicate with your review team? Because I recently tried this, waited a week, recieved no response, sent an email to the review team from my work email and got a response the same day. So I'd suggest contacting them with the email address you'll find in the message center from you're own email if you've waited longer than a week. Hope this helps!