We have a Retail project which is a large, corner store for a shopping center. The Project Boundary has been marked at the building footprint for the store since it is the limit for the property which the retail owner has jurisdiction. However, some of the exterior lights are placed outside the project boundary as these are aproximately 10 feet from the building.
Can we consider the light boundary to be at the end of the shopping center´s property line? Is there a maximum distance which we can extend the lighting boundary for cases where the project boundary is limited to the building´s footprint?
Bill Swanson
Sr. Electrical EngineerIntegrated Design Solutions
LEEDuser Expert
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June 19, 2020 - 8:41 am
"marked at the building footprint for the store since it is the limit for the property which the retail owner has jurisdiction. However, some of the exterior lights are placed outside the project boundary"
Are these exterior lights being installed as part of this project's scope of work? How could they be if the retail owner has no jurisdiction there?
Generally, only lights within the project boundary need to be compliant. The only role of the lighting boundary is showing where to measure spill light when using the option for the calculation method.
The retail Owner may just be a tenant to the Owner of the shopping center. If there is one entity that owns the whole shopping center, which includes this property, then I think you should be able to extend the lighting boundary to the edge of the shopping center's property line.
Fernando Calderon
Calderon Green ConsultingJune 19, 2020 - 9:43 am
The retail owner is a tenant to the owner of the shopping center, but owns his own space. The the exterior lights are part of the project´s scope of work, but placed on the shopping center´s property.
One entity does own the whole shopping center. Therefore would you recommend 1) not including the lights outside the building footprint? or 2) extend the lighting boundary to the shopping center´s property line?
Thanks,
Bill Swanson
Sr. Electrical EngineerIntegrated Design Solutions
LEEDuser Expert
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June 23, 2020 - 3:00 pm
"The retail owner is a tenant ... but owns his own space."
"One entity does own the whole shopping center."
I get very confused with statements that seem to contradict each other. I read this and hear two owners of this project space. I may be too inexperienced in retail property contracts. I'm also confused that this project is adding lights outside of the project boundary. MPR2 may need to be verified. "This includes land altered as a result of construction and features used primarily by the project’s occupants..."
Even verify if this is a whole building (Retail-NC-v4) or a commercial interior (Retail-CI-v4) project?
This LEED Interpretation has been my guidance for campus type projects.
https://www.usgbc.org/leedaddenda/10236
I can't determine if this is a campus or not based on what you have written. I do not own the LEED Retail guidebook to see how it treats shopping centers in relation to the project boundary. I'm sorry but I have more questions than answers.