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LEED ID+C

This comment pertains to the LEED ID+C rating system, which still seems to be the little brother left at the grocery store in all this new rating system development. In credits marked final that we cannot comment on anymore, there are obvious confusing errors such as listing requirements for Schools and Healthcare projects (which are not rating systems in ID&C). Another error that can be found sporadically throughout ID&C is requirements for buildings instead of commercial interior spaces (e.g. MRpr: Storage and Collection of Recyclables – try providing dedicated areas accessible to waste haulers and building occupants for the collection and storage of recyclable materials for the entire building when your LEED project is an office space that constitutes 1% of a skyscraper in Hong Kong…. It’s laughable AND scary because this is a prerequisite.) My understanding was that v4 was supposed to be simplified and stream-lined, which I am all for. Launching a system with obvious confusing errors is not simplified or stream-lined. I feel very uncomfortable voting “yes” for an ID&C system that will require addenda on day #1 to make sense.

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Wed, 12/05/2012 - 22:03

Melissa, What credits reference the HC program? I haven't found any but I have been forgetting my ID+C guide at the grocery store. :) One thought however on what may be going on with the HC references. Hospital renovation work is often directed to use the ID+C guide instead of the HC guide due to definitions of complete building, project boundaries, limited mechanical impact, etc. It may be that LEED is trying to provide better guidance for a HC project using the ID+C guide. Let me know what credits and I'll be happy to read them and offer any of my limited insight.

Thu, 12/06/2012 - 15:30

Hi Susan, I think that's an optimistic look at things. :) Here are some of the incorrect listings. There are probably more I didn't catch! LT: Access to Quality Transit - All Options section has requirements for Schools. WE: Indoor Water Use Reduction - Appliance and Process Water use section has requirements for Schools and Healthcare. EA: Green Power and Carbon Offsets - Under requirements it lists Healthcare along with the other CI systems. EQ: Low-Emitting Interiors - In Table 1 there are requirements listed for Healthcare and Schools Projects. If the USGBC is trying to provide better guidance for HC projects using ID+C guidance - I hope that they will clarify that this is what they are doing. Right now it seems to me that they forgot to copy edit BD+C credits for the ID+C system.

Fri, 12/07/2012 - 02:33

Thank you for the feedback in this chain - this is a helpful list of where there are substantive corrections to be made during copy edit. I will note - the PDF documents reviewed as rating system families (BD&C, ID&C, EBOM, ND, Homes) are created only for public comment periods and the base content itself will go through several more reviews prior to balloting next year. Issues like building v. project and tables having additional requirements will be addressed. While Healthcare and Schools are not part of the ID&C rating system, Retail and Hospitality are so you should expect to see additional requirements called out for them. Extraneous language will be addressed through forthcoming copy edit. Finally, I'm happy to report that we have a number of CI projects (both within and outside the U.S.) who have enrolled and begun working with the CI (and all other) rating systems through the LEED v4 Beta Program. The purpose is to ensure that substantive issues with the v4 support tools and resources are resolved and that v4 will be of highest quality when launched. We are excited to share the outcome of this work as well as the work of our internal technical team on the significant documentation streamlining and improvements to the reference guide content. Thank you for being engaged with the 5th public comment draft of v4 - the comment period is open until the 10th, so please do provide your feedback!

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