Hi folks,
I have a hotel project and we are unsure of our FTE numbers. I'm hoping for a little guidance from the community:
Hotel has 99 rooms, estimated occupancy percentage is 65% year round. Half of the rooms are designed for 2 people max, and the other half are 4 person max. I am assuming 2.5 people per room as an average usage per key, although this number is hocus-pocus and not confirmed by the hotel operator yet.
I calculate 99 x .65 x 2.5 = 161 FTE for an average day. Am I on the right track?
The project is core and shell; however we have enough information to avoid using the chart in Appendix 1. Comparison with the Appendix 1 chart, however, is very confusing. The chart shows 37 FTE. This is so wildly different from 161 FTE that I question both numbers.
Thanks for any help!
Tristan Roberts
RepresentativeVermont House of Representatives
LEEDuser Expert
11474 thumbs up
July 1, 2012 - 2:56 pm
Steven, the Appendix 1 chart refers to "employees" and 'Transients." My hunch is that neither of these refers to residents, and that residents are not conventionally considered in an FTE count. Admittedly, though, I am just going on a hunch here and not double-checking... anyone else have feedback?
Jean Marais
b.i.g. Bechtold DesignBuilder Expert832 thumbs up
July 6, 2012 - 2:19 am
If anyone gets real data on hotel occupation, please post it...there are many people that would be very interested. Thanks.
Lawrence Lile
Chief EngineerLile Engineering, LLC
76 thumbs up
July 23, 2012 - 10:13 am
I am working on a hotel and approaching it like this:
I have 45 FTE staff, considering part-timers and full timers on a prorated basis.
I have 114 rooms, management tells me that the rooms have an average occupancy rate of 65% and average 1.2 occupants. I estimate they are on site an average of 10 hours per day. 114*65%*1.2*10/8 = 111 FTE occupants in guest rooms. I am not counting people in guest rooms as *residents*, because they are not washing dishes and cooking, just as occupants. Also I am not counting them as transients, because they are on site for an extended period.
There is also a restaurant, a bar and a conference room. Management has provided an estimate of the number of people expected in the restaurant and bar, as well as the meeting rooms. These numbers feed into the FTE calculation on a prorated basis.
This has not been reviewed yet, so it is just a guess as to how the LEED reviewer will like this approach.
steven rowland
ArkitektWhite Arkitekter
2 thumbs up
July 26, 2012 - 6:37 am
I think we have some definitive guidance on this now, based upon this addendum.
Of interest to the hotel discussion is this section:
WEp1/WEc3 calcs clarified: USGBC has offered additional guidance on key WEp1/WEc3 calcs, with special relevance to hospitality. "For the purposes of the credit calculations, assume that hotel guests use the fixtures and fittings in their room, employees use back of house and / or common areas, and transient guests use common area restrooms." And: "For hospitality projects, FTE and transient occupants are calculated per the typical methodology for the respective occupancy types. Hotel guests may be determined based on the number and size of units in the project. Generally, assume 1.5 occupants per guest room and multiply the resulting total by 60% (average hotel occupancy per AH&LA information) to determine the total number of hotel guests. Alternatively, occupants may be derived from actual historical occupancy numbers. Fixture use assumptions for hotel guests follow the fixture assumptions for residential occupants. Accordingly, lavatories located in guest rooms are considered to be private lavatories. Additionally, day use guests at the hotel should be included in the value for transient / visitor occupants. Per typical fixture use assumptions, this category of occupants assumes zero shower uses throughout the day. Example: 123-room hotelTotal Hotel Guests = 123*1.5 * 60%Total Hotel Guests = 111."
Check it here: Addendum
11/1/2011 ID# 100001069