Hi all
Could you confirm that for General Emission Evalutation, French VOC emission labeling is accepted even if in the document http://www.usgbc.org/sites/default/files/Low%20Emitting%20Third%20Party%... it is mentioned only for composite wood evaluation?
Thanks
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Reinhard Oppl
Independent consultant on VOC issuesformerly with Eurofins Product Testing A/S
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December 13, 2016 - 3:30 pm
French VOC emission label A+ (only !) is accepted for composite wood, because LEED has no VOC emissions requirements on those products, only formaldehyde is limited. All other concerned products than composite wood need to show compliance with the General Emissions Criteria, including VOC emissions (CDPH, or AgBB plus low formaldehyde emissions, or programs that include one of these, see the above referenced table of Low-Emitting Materials Third Party Certification programs. French VOC emission labeling does not cover these additional requirements and therefore is not good enough for LEED compliance.
FABIO VIERO
Head of SustainabilityManens S.p.A.
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December 15, 2016 - 5:58 am
Thank you, my question is whether the following language from the reference guide is still valid:
"ISO 16000-3: 2010, ISO 16000-6: 2011, ISO 16000-9: 2006, ISO 16000-11:2006 either in conjunction with AgBB, or with French legislation on VOC emission class labeling,"
So for General Emission Evaluation the French legislation cannot be used on its own, it must be used together with the ISO standard.
Could you confirm that what I've copied above is still valid for project outside US?
thanks!
Reinhard Oppl
Independent consultant on VOC issuesformerly with Eurofins Product Testing A/S
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December 15, 2016 - 7:22 am
Yes, correct. Just the reading is not made too simple. Please note that the ISO standards describe the testing and nothing else. The AgBB sets the VOC limits except of formaldehyde. The French legislation sets the formaldehyde limits, but (other than AgBB) it contains different levels / classes. In the LEED criteria, it is specified that French A+ class is required for formaldehyde. And as you can see from the table of Low-Emitting Materials Third Party Certification programs, this is still valid for projects outside the US.
Reinhard Oppl
Independent consultant on VOC issuesformerly with Eurofins Product Testing A/S
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December 15, 2016 - 7:32 am
One more thing. The AgBB also sets a limit for formaldehyde. But LEED does not except this limit. It is considered not stringent enough. French A+ class also sets a limit for VOCs. But LEED does not except the French limits for individual VOCs. These are considered not stringent enough. This is why that combination of AgBB (except formaldehyde) and French A+ class (for formaldehyde) is used as requirement outside the US.
Elodie DUMAS
ALTO Ingénierie18 thumbs up
December 15, 2016 - 8:14 am
Reinhard,
In august 2014, we've asked USGBC if French A+ alone was sufficient and have received a positive answer. Here is an extract of their answer :
"Yes, A+ labelling done by an ISO 17025 accredited lab following the ISO 16000 test methods is acceptable. I agree, we could be clearer on that point.".
Since this USGBC answer, I was surprised that it doesn't appear in the "Low-Emitting Materials Third Party Certification programs". But the feedback of USGBC by e-mail was pretty clear. What do you think about that ?
Reinhard Oppl
Independent consultant on VOC issuesformerly with Eurofins Product Testing A/S
329 thumbs up
December 15, 2016 - 10:04 am
Elodie,
I agree that there is a lot of confusion about this matter, sometimes even with some US GBC staff members. Earlier tracks within this forum already dealt with that issue. In the end, the cited reply is correct only for composite wood, because LEED limits only formaldehyde for that product group. It does not correctly cover other products, where not only formaldehyde but also VOCs are restricted. In the end, the referenced table is issued by the responsible task force within US GBC, the EQ TAG, as the official interpretation.
Michelle Halle Stern
Senior Sustainability ConsultantGreenwood Consulting Group
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December 15, 2016 - 11:45 am
Thank you Reinhard once again for sharing your expertise. You understand the non-U.S. requirements better than anyone else.