According to Table G3.1.1A for the baseline model I have to model System 4 – PSZ-HP (packed roof top heat pump).
I’m wondering what efficiencies I have to consider.
Shall the electric heat pump be considered a “single-package vertical heat pump” (SPVHP)? If the answer is yes, shall I impose the values of “SPVHP (heating mode)” of Table 6.8.1D?
For the DX cooling system shall I impose the values of “SPVHP (cooling mode)” of Table 6.8.1D?
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Marcus Sheffer
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September 28, 2012 - 3:10 pm
For a system 4 use the efficiencies from Table 6.8.1B for air cooled heat pumps.
Marina Andrade
Sustainability Consultancy ServicesCushman & Wakefield
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October 4, 2012 - 2:19 pm
Hi Marcus,
I'm modeling the same system with the size category of <19 kW for cooling and heating mode, the efficiency of this system is in SCOP.
Do you know how do I convert SCOP to COP?
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Marcus Sheffer
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October 4, 2012 - 5:00 pm
I can't find SCOP in any of the 6.8.1 tables. Maybe it is a metric thing that I am not familiar with? Could the "S" be seasonal?
Marina Andrade
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October 5, 2012 - 7:55 am
The standard is on SI, and the "S" means Seasonal COP. The problem is that to model I need to enter the COP of the system and the standard gives me only the SCOP for systems less than 19 kW (for cooling mode) and less than 40kW (for heating mode) from the table 6.8.1B.
Marcus Sheffer
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October 5, 2012 - 9:14 am
Strange that my IP version of the standard lists COP for heating and not SCOP. I don't have an explanation for why this is so.
For small systems it uses SEER and HSPF. For larger ones it lists EER and COP. Less than 65,000 BTU/h is SEER 13 and 7.7 HSPF. For larger systems it ranges from 9.3 to 11.0 EER.. The COP of 65,000 to 135,000 BTU/h is 3.3 (at 47 d F db) and over 135,000 is 3.2 COP.
Marina Andrade
Sustainability Consultancy ServicesCushman & Wakefield
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October 5, 2012 - 3:54 pm
Hi Marcus,
Thanks for your help!
To model the project I'm using the E+, which I need to input the COP of the heating and the cooling mode. For system less than 65,000BTU/h, I only have the SEER of 13 (IP)or the SCOP of 3.81 (SI) for cooling mode and for heating mode I have the HSPF of 7.7 or the SCOP of 2.25. How do I set this efficiency on the program?
Marcus Sheffer
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October 5, 2012 - 5:43 pm
E+ can't take a SEER or HSPF value?
The ratio of SEER to SCOP and the ratio of HSPF to SCOP is about 3.413 in both cases. 3.413 is the kBTU/kWh.
I am not sure you can convert a seasonal value to a static one.
Francesco Passerini
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October 10, 2012 - 6:28 am
In the report EquipmentSummary of EnergyPlus HSPF and SEER are reported both in IP units and in SI units. There is no indication abut SCOP values.
If I consider always SI units (for SCOP, SEER, and HSPF), I guess
SCOP(heating) = HSPF
SCOP(cooling) = SEER
Am I wrong?