If our project is within a quarter mile of two bus stops. The two routes have the same route number but one goes East-West and the other is across the street and travels West-East.
Knowing that these are two different routes but have the same route number, would we qualify to get this credit?
Michael Smithing
Director - Green Building AdvisoryColliers International Ltd.
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September 13, 2017 - 4:27 am
This sounds like one route, which travels back and forth in two directions. This is how most bus routes work as people that take the bus to work like to go home as well, and this also avoids the problem where all the buses end up at one end station with nowhere to go.
Unless there is something very unusual going on with these routes - for example they do not share the same end stations - you will not qualify.
Jalal Avades
PresidentAGR Consulting, LLC
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September 13, 2017 - 11:32 am
Thanks Michael,
The bus routes start at 5:00AM until midnight and runs every 20-30 minutes. So if one route starts 15 miles east of the site and runs 5 miles to the west, where the second route starts; don't they considered two routes and bringing people from different areas? This is a medical outpatient facility and these buses brings people from both sides.
Thoughts?
Michael Smithing
Director - Green Building AdvisoryColliers International Ltd.
304 thumbs up
September 14, 2017 - 3:06 am
That's how bus lines work. LEED's rule may not be fair to projects in the middle of a bus line, where service runs in 2 directions, as their service is "better" than it is for projects located at an end station. That said, it would be difficult to create a rule that was universally applicable - how many stations from the terminal do you need to be to claim that you have sufficient service in both directions? I do not see any chance you'll get a review team to accept this.
Brian Muldoon
Planning SpecialistHoward County MD Government
September 14, 2017 - 9:57 am
I do not know if the commenters above understand the meaning of a two-way route. In Central MD we have a rout that starts at A in both cases but each other takes separate paths. One goes from A to Z , to Y to X, etc. and the other goes from A to B, to C, etc. While they often serve the same stops ,all stops are not identical and approach whether coming or going differs for the two routes. As I stated, this is one route but is like a reversible jacket..same jacket but can be used as two different jackets. I would count this as two separate routes as they interact with separate transfer routes and thoughoverall serve the same areas, they do not pass each other except at the end of the route or the beginning.
Marilyn Specht
Senior Principal | Director of Sustainability IntegrationSmithGroup
LEEDuser Expert
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September 14, 2017 - 11:38 am
Hi Jalal, I agree with Michael on this one. Unfortunately, it sounds like this credit is out-of-reach to your project.
David Posada
Integrated Design & LEED SpecialistSERA Architects
LEEDuser Expert
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September 14, 2017 - 5:59 pm
Jalal and Brian - can you post a link to the bus map or schedules you are describing so we can understand your situation better?