do you know who said/wrote: "Place is a doorway into caring ..."

Kira Gould

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April 24, 2024

from the Tortured by Randomness Department:

Y'all ... I was recently reminded (by Bill Reed) about a lovely quote ... and I'm keen to use it in a talk upcoming ...

Here it is:
Place is a doorway into caring. Love of place unleashes the personal and political will needed to make profound change. It can also unite people across diverse ideological spectra because place is what we all share: it is the common that allows people to call themselves a community.

And here's the rub:

I was double checking the source (Bill had quoted it as Simone Weil's) online and online, it is attributed to four people ... Anne Whiston Spirn, Simone Weil, Pamela Mang, Terry Tempest Williams. AI sources are mostly telling me Spirn. I have works b\y all four of these women, but none seem to contain this passage.

Does anyone happen to know?

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Wed, 04/24/2024 - 19:56

My guess is TTW, but I do not see it in this list of quotes. Terry Tempest Williams Quotes (Author of Refuge) (page 6 of 12) goodreads.com [apple-touch-icon.png] Dan Whittet LEED AP Sustainability 617 335 2328. Cell On Apr 24, 2024, at 3:42 PM, Kira Gould wrote: (((

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Wed, 04/24/2024 - 21:03

Thanks! The one ref to her (found by Bill, not me, via ChatGPT) said that she SAID it during an interview for the Guardian (which I also have not been able to locate). It is more commonly attributed to Spirn, Weil, and Mang (in descending order of frequency). I just wish I had an actual citation (from book or interview or paper) that I could actually check. But it's confounding. (And I have found one writer, who on separate occasions himself attributed this to Weil and Mang. Which is ... crazy!) On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 3:02 PM Daniel Whittet wrote:

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Wed, 04/24/2024 - 21:20

Well, I tried Claude AI, which is better with text. I got this result The quote "Place is a doorway into caring. Love of place unleashes the personal and political will needed to make profound change. It can also unite people across diverse ideological spectra because place is what we all share: it is the common that allows people to call themselves a community" is from Deb Habib, a writer, activist, and co-founder of Seeds of Solidarity Education Center in Orange, Massachusetts. Habib's work focuses on sustainable living, community resilience, and place-based education. The quote you mentioned appears in her essay "Place is a Doorway to Caring," which was published in the book "The Power of Collective Wisdom: And the Trap of Collective Folly" (2009), edited by Alan Briskin, Sheryl Erickson, John Ott, and Tom Callanan. Dan Whittet Senior Associate | Energy & Sustainability AHA Consulting Engineers, Inc. 77 South Bedford St., Suite 140, Burlington, MA 01803 781-372-3000 cell 617-335-2328