I am trying to figure out which are design and which are construction credits in the new LEED online. I also looked at the website. Anyone knows how to find out which credits in LEED V4 can be submitted in design phase and which ones in construction phase?
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Megan Sparks
Director, Integration StrategyGreen Business Certification Inc.
July 23, 2014 - 10:10 am
The design vs. construction designations are not currently viewable in the credits page interface in new LEED Online, but will be coming soon. In the meantime, the v4 Reference Guides include quick reference tables with an easy look up for the design/construction designation for each credit. Check out page 20 of the BD+C v4 Reference Guide (overview section: http://www.usgbc.org/sites/all/assets/section/files/v4-guide-excerpts/Ex...) or page 17 of the ID+C v4 Reference Guide (overview section: http://www.usgbc.org/sites/all/assets/section/files/v4-guide-excerpts/Ex...) for the quick reference tables.
Raymond Salfiti
Managing DirectorG
6 thumbs up
February 23, 2015 - 4:44 am
Megan, am I not reading the credits quick reference table on page 20 of the v4 reference guide correctly or does it really have glitches? For instance, I am reading some points shown to the Fundamental Refrigerant Management Prerequisite across all rating systems. Also, unreasonable amount of points for the Cooling Tower Water Use (18 points). What am I missing?
Eric Thompson
ArchitectNBBJ
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October 27, 2015 - 1:50 pm
These still don't really appear on LEED Online as far as I can tell. The only way we can see them is if you hover over the credit, but how would you know to do that? (I discovered it by accident). There is the chart in the Reference Guide mentioned above, but if there is something in the credits themselves that tells you that, I've missed it. It's also not on the checklist as far as I can tell (the new v4 checklist does not have the very useful "detailed" tab which included the design/construction designation). It almost seems like the USGBC is trying to hide this info...
emily reese moody
Sustainability Director, Certifications & ComplianceJacobs
LEEDuser Expert
486 thumbs up
June 22, 2016 - 12:57 pm
I'm with Eric. I looked through the LEEDUser pages, the USGBC Credit Library, the Reference Guide Summary PDF, all versions of the checklists that are out, and straight up Googled it, and couldn't find the very basic D/C info. Also, the checklists need a great deal of work, as they don't show this info, nor do they show any of the options or point thresholds under each credit. I'm having to manually create our own working versions of every rating system in order to even be able to get started with a useable file. We don't have a v4 project registered yet (trying to prepare for one now), so we wouldn't have been able to see the D/C designation if I hadn't stumbled across it on this forum post. Luckily, we had already purchased the full Reference Guide and found it there per the above comments.
There are also a significant number of serious typos in the Reference Guide that, given the amount of time it took to release this version, should have been caught. The most obvious example I've found so far is the point chart for Optimize Energy Performance...it repeats half of the point thresholds! Pretty major oversight there, considering it's probably the most important credit in the NC rating system.
Sorry for the rant; as a pretty experienced LEED Admin, I'm having a very frustrating start to the v4 projects. If I didn't have the knowledge to manually navigate the intricacies of USGBC that comes with having done so many projects, there's no way I'd be able to make sense of this mess as a new user.
Megan Sparks
Director, Integration StrategyGreen Business Certification Inc.
June 22, 2016 - 1:30 pm
HI Emily- In LEED Online, hover over the credit name to see whether it is a design or construction credit. The design/construction designation is also listed in the Quick Reference Table in the getting started section of the Reference Guide. Good luck!
emily reese moody
Sustainability Director, Certifications & ComplianceJacobs
LEEDuser Expert
486 thumbs up
June 22, 2016 - 1:43 pm
Well, that was part of the problem above; we don't have a v4 project in LEEDOnline yet. We're at the stage where we're trying to organize a proposal response, estimate hours within phases, etc.
I was able to use the chart in the Guide after all that searching; luckily we had already purchased the full Guide.
The designations are such basic info, that it does seem like USGBC is trying to make simple tasks more difficult for the users, like Eric said. To that list, I'd add that you cannot open the Reference Guide and tell whether you're looking at a prerequisite or a credit at a glance. We could always previously pick up a Guide, open it in the middle, and know where we were; every prerequisite and credit had a small summary table at the top/outside of each page telling you the category and whether it was a prereq or a credit (and number, though I know that's a lost cause in v4). It's very unfortunate that this feature was removed, as it is much more time consuming to now have to either go to the TOC every time, or thumb back and forth trying to figure out exactly where you are in the book. I've had to manually add physical tab stickers so that I can actually have quicker access.
I have also tried using the built-in bookmarks in the PDF version of the Guide, but many of them were not properly labeled, so I had to manually correct those, too.
Emmanuel Pauwels
OwnerGreen Living Projects
138 thumbs up
June 23, 2016 - 2:33 am
Emily, I think we have a solution which gives you the scorecards with the information you are looking for and it might help you with the issues you are facing. If interested please send me a message.