I am working on multiple building campus level projects which fall under same contract and same owner. After the completion of schematic design stage the entire development was tendered for design and build contract. So now under a main contractor design team is working on detail design and the construction is in progress concurrently.
1.Architects are developing detail design – build contractor is working on site wide enabling work.
2.Once architect frees their drawings, MEP consultant will developed their detail design while build contractor will start the piling work/building envelop etc.
3.Followed by interior design work and then interior finishes/MEP installation by build contractor
We planned to have split review design and then construction review for LEED certification but since there will be very thin line in separating the design and construction stages anyone out there with design and build project experience can advise whether project is still applicable for split review? And any precaution should I be taking not to unsatisfied any credits requirements?
PS: I am using AGMBC 2010 (Part 1 using master site approach)
Thank you
Regards
TODD REED
Energy Program SpecialistPA DMVA
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December 18, 2012 - 1:10 pm
Because this is a multiple building on campus submission, i would suggest that you just do a combined review. This way,prior to submission, you will be able to ensure consistency between all the credits, both individual and campus/master plan based. This will also allow the reviewer to see the submission as a whole and if everything is correct and coordinated, will make for an easier review.
Ameet AA
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December 19, 2012 - 5:59 am
Thank you Todd, Is there any risk i should know if i choose a combined review instead of split review.
Regards
TODD REED
Energy Program SpecialistPA DMVA
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December 19, 2012 - 8:48 am
I would not say there is a risk to a combined review if everything has been designed to meet the credit requirements. There is a possibility that a design credit, say light pollution or one of the EQ credits for controls is denied based on not meeting the requirement. Depending if you need that credit or want to earn it, then you;ll have to change what has already been built or installed. So you may end up in a scenario where you have to bring back the contractor and get a system changed, which may not be feasible or possible. Kind of like, it is what is.
I suggested a combined based on your OP which it appears that design and construction will be finished really close together where time between the two is minimal. If you have been uploading and completing the credits as soon as design is done and there is a few months till completion of construction, then it would be feasible to do a split. Not sure as to what is all involved with your project and the complexity to say accurately do one or the other.
You could also defer design credits until the construction review also. We always defer EAc1 and EAp2 until the construction review. That way the model reflects the as built drawings.
Scott Bowman
LEED FellowIntegrated Design + Energy Advisors, LLC
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December 19, 2012 - 8:56 am
Todd, I will mildly disagree. While we have had great success with our LEED credits, the couple of times where we had issues they were much easier to resolve with the split review, having the design review before the construction review. Ameet, I do not know your situation, but in our design/build work there is still a fair amount of time after the design is locked in and construction finishes. I would agree that the line can be fuzzy for some things, like structure, but for MEP systems we still seem to have some time other than underground, or pre-ordering equipment, that sort of thing.
The other benefit that we see with the design review is that the team is freshest with the information and can complete the documentation the most efficiency at that stage. We all have a lot of projects, and it is too easy to just move to the next deadline and push off the documentation until tomorrow if you do the combined review. The design review forces the team to get everything ready and submitted when it is the easiest to complete.
Ameet AA
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December 19, 2012 - 10:22 am
Thank you Scott and Todd.
I have issued all the LEED credits construction requirements such as construction activity pollution and construction contractor is following the requirements.However I am just concern that USGBC reviwer notice that construction activity is taken place before the Design submittals and might reject some credits or worse project even will not be eligible to LEED certification or am i just thinking too much in a wrong direction?
Tristan Roberts
RepresentativeVermont House of Representatives
LEEDuser Expert
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December 19, 2012 - 10:26 am
Ameet, it is fine to have construction activity take place before design submittals are put together. Just make sure everyone is following the rules, and get help when you need it.
Ameet AA
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December 19, 2012 - 11:13 am
Thank you Tristan! you just made my Christmas merry! Happy Holidays now!!
Steve Khouw
PrincipalDNA GreenDesign
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December 19, 2012 - 6:05 pm
Well said Scott, for your pragmatic insight. Usually projects those that are of multiple building campus type, large buildings, highly complex and with good project lead time we adopt the split review. It will afford the project team to optimise their delivery & submissions by focusing on design related issues, which account a lot out of the 100 available points.
There is also the advantage of changing an Innovation in Design credit during the design review if it is likely that the reviewer will deny that points. When one is seeking that last mile to attain the desired certification level, it makes a big difference.
Dion Anandityo
Senior Sustainable Design ConsultantArup
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December 19, 2012 - 10:30 pm
Hi Ameet,
We are in the same situation as yours in one of our projects. Multiple building campus approach with a D&B contractor. We decided it will be a safer route to go with a split review since it will allow us more time to rectify any design changes required prior to actually having the system installed.
With multiple buildings, you just can't afford to go back on an installed system to try making it comply with LEED if something goes wrong and your credit is rejected.
As for when the cut-off date for design phase, we coordinated with the D&B contractor to set a timeline of design submission in which the design would be mature enough to be submitted.
Ameet AA
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December 21, 2012 - 6:02 am
Hi Dion, it is always nice to hear from a long lost friend!!! I guess LEEDuser group is going beyond it's purpose,nice work!
Thank you for your sharing your approach, great help!
Regards