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I have a project with 14 small rooms (
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David Posada
Integrated Design & LEED SpecialistSERA Architects
LEEDuser Expert
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June 27, 2011 - 4:21 pm
Dylan,
There aren't any published CIRs or addenda so far that have addressed this question, though inquiry #1625 has some similarities. In that instance GBCI did not allow an exception.
You'll probably need to submit a CIR for your situation to get a clear answer - you might consider proposing that the Title-24 language provides greater clarity of when a small space should or should not be considered "densely occupied" since it looks at more variables - room size and design occupancy - instead of just the 25 per 1000 sf number.
Erica Downs
LEED ConsultantThe Green Engineer
254 thumbs up
August 18, 2011 - 12:56 pm
This is a great question! We have a similar situation for a project right now. If you do submit a CIR, would be very interested in hearing the outcome!
Shannon Allison
Project EngineerIntegral Group
35 thumbs up
November 9, 2011 - 6:26 pm
Dylan,
Did you submit the T24 reference for your project LEED submittal for IEQc1? I am in a similar situation for one of our projects. I'm just wondering how this turned out for your project.
Paula Rantanen
Team managerGranlund
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March 1, 2012 - 1:57 am
Dylan,
Did you get your review back yet? I'm having the same problem in my project and would really appreciate if you could share the outcom with us.
FYI: In ref quid for O&M there is an exemption for rooms smaller that 150 square feet.
Dylan Connelly
Mechanical EngineerIntegral Group
LEEDuser Expert
472 thumbs up
March 16, 2012 - 1:27 pm
Paula,
Still waiting for reviewer comments. Good to know about the O&M exemption, that may be helpful in an appeal. Thanks.
Tom Martin
Bard, Rao + Athanas Consulting Engineers, LLC7 thumbs up
June 27, 2012 - 6:03 pm
Dylan,
Just wanted to check how this worked out for you.
Please let us know.
Thank you.
Dylan Connelly
Mechanical EngineerIntegral Group
LEEDuser Expert
472 thumbs up
July 26, 2013 - 12:08 pm
An update:
After deciding that we met the intent of the credit - but not necessarily the exact verbage, we ended up submitting this credit and leaving those smaller rooms out of the calc. The reviewer did not question us and we got the credit points. Ended up getting LEED Platinum on the project by a safe number.
Andrew Mitchell, P.E.
PrincipalMitchell Gulledge Engineering, Inc.
LEEDuser Expert
126 thumbs up
July 26, 2013 - 12:09 pm
Did you point out that the rooms were not in strict compliance or did you just not mention them at all? Thanks for the update.
Dylan Connelly
Mechanical EngineerIntegral Group
LEEDuser Expert
472 thumbs up
August 13, 2013 - 6:35 pm
We did not mention them on this credit.