Our project is a Core & Shell office building in Egypt. I am wondering how to determine LPD for tenant spaces, Should we follow either the Building area method or the Space-by-Space method? When I refer to LEED reference book 2009 V3, It states that compliance with manadtory sections of ASHRAE 90.1-2007 is required but I did not find any requirements regarding interior LPD under section 9.4 Mandatory Provisions in the standard. Please sdvise.
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Marcus Sheffer
LEED Fellow7group / Energy Opportunities
LEEDuser Expert
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October 25, 2010 - 10:02 am
It is your choice to follow one LPD method or the other. Most of the time in our expereince you will get more savings using the space-by-space method.
LPD is not a mandatory provision, it is a prescriptive requirement. You must comply with all mandatory provisions. Prescriptive requirements are available for trade-off. As long as you show the necessary total savings you can exceed individual prescriptive requirements.
Amgad Khattab
LEED Product ManagerRaya Smart Buildings
23 thumbs up
October 27, 2010 - 6:50 am
Thanks Marcus,
Another question, Regarding energy modeling, how to determine LPD of the tenant spaces for both the proposed and baseline buildings. We do not have lighting design for these spaces as it is not in our scope.
Marcus Sheffer
LEED Fellow7group / Energy Opportunities
LEEDuser Expert
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November 14, 2010 - 11:44 am
If you do not know what the LPD is for these spaces then use the ASHRAE 90.1 values in both models.
You can claim savings if the tenant guidelines contain a LPD requirements for future tenatnt below the ASHRAE 90.1 value. See the CSv2 CIRs.
Barron Dean
Vice PresidentB&A Consulting Engineers
6 thumbs up
June 15, 2011 - 2:33 pm
Can we have the lease document for tenant spaces state that they must be at a specific LPD and use that value in the energy model for extra savings?
Susann Geithner
PrincipalEmerald Built Environments
1297 thumbs up
June 16, 2011 - 2:01 pm
Yes. You can do that. You can also require more occupancy sensors or daylight control and therefore claim savings for any measures that exceed ASHREA 90.1 standard. You will have to provided the lease documents in order to prove it.
Christopher Schaffner
CEO & FounderThe Green Engineer
LEEDuser Expert
963 thumbs up
June 26, 2011 - 11:32 pm
Also can take credit for any spaces that are designed, even if they are not part of the shell and core scope.
For example, in a recent project, several spaces had been leased prior to construction. Different design team, not part of the shell and core scope, but since they had a complete lighting design already, we were able to model those spaces with the actual LPD.
Anna Korinkova
Grinity s.r.o.83 thumbs up
September 26, 2013 - 8:07 am
One more question regarding this topic. In our CS project we are using the ASHRAE 90.1 values for both proposed and design cases. However, we will install automatic lighting controls in the tenant spaces as a part of our CS scope. Is it possible to decrease the proposed case by 10 % because of the table G3.2 even though we are using tenant neutral values?
Marcus Sheffer
LEED Fellow7group / Energy Opportunities
LEEDuser Expert
5907 thumbs up
September 26, 2013 - 11:16 am
Yes you can as long as the controls qualify.