I'm still not completely clear on the reporting commitment for energy and water usage data. The responses to prior questions about this subject indicate a reporting commitment of 5 years if Option 1 in PI Form 1 and Option 3 in EA c5 form are checked, but if Option 2 in PI Form1 and an M&V plan are submitted instead the reporting period is much shorter. But the language early in Item #6 in PI Form 1 clearly states "at least 5 years" so the impression is created that the owner ( barring exemptions due to lack of meters ) will necessarily be reporting to the USGBC for 5 years as part of meeting the MPR. Am I misinterpreting something?
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Marcus Sheffer
LEED Fellow7group / Energy Opportunities
LEEDuser Expert
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June 16, 2015 - 9:42 am
The reporting of your data and the M&V period are two separate issues.
MPR #6 requires that you provide and report the data for 5 years. If you do so following Option 1 you can earn a point either within EAc5 or, if already pursuing Option 1 or 2 under EAc5, as a ID credit. Under Option 2 in MPR #6 you still have to provide the data for 5 years.
Ivan Romero
Senior Project ManagerKMD Architects
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June 16, 2015 - 12:55 pm
Marcus, thank you for your response. To make sure I understand: If we are already pursuing Option 1 or 2 under EAc5 AND we choose to register the project with Portfolio Manager, we get an ID point for the Portfolio Manager? If we do not do Portfolio Manager, we still have the MPR requirement to report for 5 years - what is the typical means for the client to provide the data for 5 years?
Marcus Sheffer
LEED Fellow7group / Energy Opportunities
LEEDuser Expert
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June 16, 2015 - 1:13 pm
Yes you get 3 points for EAc5 and one ID point.
Typically projects use Portfolio Manager to provide the data. I am not sure what other means are provided under Option 2. I do know that they ask for a release to be signed allowing them to access the information from the utility as a last resort. There is probably a spreadsheet they ask you to complete but I would need to do some digging to confirm.
Debra a. Lombard
Construction Administrator/ LEED APBywater Woodworks, Inc.
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August 4, 2016 - 1:29 pm
I greatly appreciate Marcus' experience and time with this issue through his replies above. However, I am unsure of being able to meet EAc5. In my Ref Guide dated June 2010 it does not list an option 3 for EAc5. Nor do I see any option #s under MPR #6. For MPR#6 I only see that projects need to provide energy & water data for 5 years.
My question is, can a project achieve 1 point under EAc5 via Option #3 (only) if providing one year of data through portfolio manager, for energy and water use, if the project does NOT follow either Option 1 or option 2 under EAc5?
I'm assuming not, but if so, I'd be so glad to know.
Thank you!
Debra
Marcus Sheffer
LEED Fellow7group / Energy Opportunities
LEEDuser Expert
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August 4, 2016 - 1:50 pm
No. The project must meet MPR #6. If it meets MPR #6 through Option 1 it can earn a point under EAc5. This is Option 3 under EAc5 which was added at a later date than the Reference Guide you have. It is probably in an addenda.
Debra a. Lombard
Construction Administrator/ LEED APBywater Woodworks, Inc.
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August 4, 2016 - 2:27 pm
Hi,
I don't see any Options listed under MPR #6 at:
http://www.usgbc.org/Docs/Archive/General/Docs6715.pdf
Do you know where I can see the Options under MPR#6?
Thanks Marcus!
Debra
Marcus Sheffer
LEED Fellow7group / Energy Opportunities
LEEDuser Expert
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August 9, 2016 - 10:03 am
The options are within the PIf1 form in LEED Online.
Debra a. Lombard
Construction Administrator/ LEED APBywater Woodworks, Inc.
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August 9, 2016 - 11:10 am
Thank you so much Marcus!
I greatly appreciate your time and knowledge. The last LEED project that I worked on before this one was back in 2012.
Regards,
Debra