I am fairly new to LEED so please bare with me on this one. We are a manufacturer and sell assembled products to the customer. Thus, when we sell the assembled product, it is our understanding that we would be the manufacturer.
However, we have had some issues with what our harvest location would be. We purchase the parts (typically wood based products such as solid lumber, veneer, plywood, etc.) from local distributors. Would the harvest location that we report be our distributors facility, or do we have to dig deeper and find out where they got their raw materials from?
One problem we continually run into is distributors telling us that the wood used came from multiple forests, or they provide me with an approximate location (i.e. Eastern Tennessee).
Our lives would be much easier if the distributors facility is deemed as the location of recovery of raw materials.
Can anyone provide me with information on this?
Thanks!
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Jon Clifford
LEED-AP BD+CGREENSQUARE
LEEDuser Expert
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April 19, 2015 - 11:12 am
Sorry, but you cannot use the distributor’s facility, or even the lumber mill, as the extraction site for wood products. Under Credit MRc5, LEED-2009 Addenda define extraction points as the origin of the RAW MATERIAL. Here are some good rules of thumb:
. . Minerals: The mine, quarry, or well from which the material was drawn.
. . Agricultural (such as wood): The land where the material was harvested (so, for solid lumber, veneer, plywood, etc., the extraction site is the forest, not the distributor).
. . Reused: The place from which the material was salvaged.
. . Recycled: The scrap yard or reclamation facility from which the material was purchased before remanufacture into a useful product. (Wood composites like MDF of particleboard, which are often made using recycled wood chips, the extraction site would be the mill that produced the chips.)
One caveat: If the raw material passes through mills, distributors, or other intermediates on its way from the extraction to fabrication, each of these ALSO must be within 500 miles of the project site to count as regional.
For MRc5, these are the critical data for assemblies:
+ . The cost of the assembly (excluding on-site installation labor, but including any pre-delivery fabrication costs);
+ . The assembly’s manufacturing location; and
+ . If the manufacturer is within 500 miles of the Project site, the percentage (by weight) of raw materials in the assembly extracted within 500 miles of the Project site.
Jon Clifford
LEED-AP BD+CGREENSQUARE
LEEDuser Expert
327 thumbs up
April 19, 2015 - 11:13 am
To address the other half of your question, sometimes the approximate harvest site of the trees will suffice.
For example, if your plant lies within 500 miles of a project in Indianapolis, you would tally up the weights of all the components in the assembly that they purchased. Next, identify which components have extraction sites within 500 miles of Indy, and report their percentages compared to the total weight of the assembly.
Reporting that 12% of the assembly is wood from trees grown in western Tennessee would be good enough for this project because all of Tennessee lies within the 500-mile radius from Indy. However, if the wood came from central Pennsylvania, right on Indy’s 500-mile boundary, you would need to be more specific, perhaps reporting which county or zip code of the forest.
Eric Tengowski
Senior Project ManagerEngineering Specialties Co.
August 20, 2015 - 1:58 pm
While researching the requirements for MRc5 (NC-2009), I found information on the USGBC site that states there are a possible of two points for Regional materials.
Option 1 requires 20% (twenty %) of the material value be MANUFACTURED within a 500 mile radius of the site. It does NOT mention harvesting or extraction in option 1.
Option 2 requires that 10% (ten %) of the material value be extracted, harvested AND manufactured within a 500 mile radius of the site.
Is each option the equivalent of 1 point?
It looks like this has changed from v2, 2.0 which states 20% manufactured only.....
Which is different than v2, 2.2 which states 10% extracted and manufactured.
Am I understanding this correctly?
Thank you!
Nadav Malin
CEOBuildingGreen, Inc.
LEEDuser Moderator
844 thumbs up
August 20, 2015 - 2:25 pm
Hi Eric,I think you must have been looking at the wrong set of requirements. What you're describing applies to LEED-NC 2.x, but NOT to LEED 2009 (except for the CI version). And might I suggest that you consider becoming a LEEDuser member? If you did that, you'd see the actual credit langauge right here, on this page, and not have that opportunity for confusion. ;-)
Eric Tengowski
Senior Project ManagerEngineering Specialties Co.
August 20, 2015 - 3:16 pm
Thank You Nadav. I'm working on trying to get my boss to get a membership. I agree it would be helpful. However, I'm more of an inquiring mind that wants to understand everything. Especially when I get conficting info from two or three different sources. The manufacturers we buy from are the ones that really need the membership. We are basically the middle-man passing along the info the manufacturers provide to us.
The information I was describing is for LEED 2009 CI version (I can't attach a screen shot in this forum).
Is each option (1 and 2) worth 1 point?
Nadav Malin
CEOBuildingGreen, Inc.
LEEDuser Moderator
844 thumbs up
August 20, 2015 - 4:12 pm
Yes, LEED-CI 2009 does work as you described. There is a separate forum on LEEDuser for talking about that rating system and credit, so you might want to take your questions about that over there: www.leeduser.com/credit/CI-2009/MRc5