EU Standards vs LEED
We have some problem with the VOC (g/l) content in our products. This beacsue we just found out that the EU standards use 250 degrees as as specified limit when VOC is measured and for LEED they should use 280 degrees. How will this affect our information, Should we force our suppliers to carry out two measurements for every product, in order to measure according to both principles?
Or are we fine using the EU standards?
Timo Rintala
Green Building Partners Ltd14 thumbs up
January 31, 2012 - 6:34 am
Hi Tanja
Please check new LEED 2012 suggestions. In there, the EU values are clearly accepted to be equivalents.
So we are fine using EU standards (here in Finland also)
Adi Negara, LEED AP BD+C
Green Building FacilitatorPT. Indonesia Environment Consultant
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March 19, 2012 - 2:18 am
Hi, Timo
You said that the EU standards are acceptable for LEED, but in another post (question asked by Alexander Benning), Tristan said that "this certifiations would not be accepted right now by USGBC, although that could change in the future" also from Susann "You can't used the European certificates, but we have applied for these credits successfully in European project. However we had to hired a building biologist expert. He calculated and/or tested to figure out the difference between the US and European method of determining/expressing VOCs".
What is the correct status for using european method for LEED compliance? I'm concerned because few of our supplier use this method: "BS EN ISO 11890-2:2:2006, Paints and varnishes - Determination of content volatile organic compound (VOC) content - Part 2:Gas-chromatographic method".
Timo Rintala
Green Building Partners Ltd14 thumbs up
March 19, 2012 - 3:15 am
Hi Satya
While this is not official in the current LEED system, I have been involved in several projects using EU values as a proof for IEQ 4.2, with no problems.
And as I said, now you shoul be able to use LEED 2012 as a proof for compliance. Straingt copy from EQ: Low emittiong interiors:
"For LEED projects outside North America, all paints, coatings, adhesives and sealants wet applied on-site shall conform to the technical requirements of either the above regulations, or they shall be in compliance with applicable national VOC control regulations, e.g. the European "Decopaint" Directive (2004/42/EC), the Canadian VOC Concentration Limits for Architectural Coatings or the Hong Kong Air Pollution Control (VOC) Regulation.". Page 138.
If you ask me, you should be able to comply with requirement based on the new LEED 2012. It should be clear, that compliance is checked for the new LEED.
Timo
Adi Negara, LEED AP BD+C
Green Building FacilitatorPT. Indonesia Environment Consultant
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March 19, 2012 - 6:18 am
So, does this mean that the VOC evidences at my disposal, is already sufficient for LEED 2009 requirements?
Mara Baum
Partner, Architecture & SustainabilityDIALOG
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March 19, 2012 - 12:18 pm
LEED 2012 is still in draft form and even if in use, you can't use methods in newer rating systems to prove compliance in others unless an interpretation has been made by USGBC. However, if a method has been found to be acceptable by USGBC for a different rating system, the likelihood that they will accept it for your project is considerably higher. Have you looked for discussion of this in the interpretation database?
Vanessa Montezuma
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December 13, 2017 - 1:12 pm
Hi everyone, I'm looking for the information on this post. Do you know if European standards (Directive 2004/42/EC) are admitted in LEED 2009? I only find information from LEED v4. Thanks in advance.
Debra a. Lombard
Construction Administrator/ LEED APBywater Woodworks, Inc.
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December 14, 2017 - 3:12 pm
There is a chart of what VOC programs are allowed under LEED v4 but it seems that this doesn't apply to LEED 2009. however LEED 2009 projects can use LEED v4 for IEQ credits.
This below is what I saved from previous posts:
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Hello,
I was able to locate a Low-Emitting Materials Third Party Certification table for V4 projects on the USGBC website, I am looking for the equivalent for LEED 2009 projects.
This is the table: http://www.usgbc.org/resources/low-emitting-materials-third-party-certif...
Does a table/list exist for LEED 2009? and where can it be found?
Any information regarding this would be greatly appreciated.
Tristan RobertsLEED AP BD+C, Executive Editor – LEEDuser, BuildingGreen, Inc.Aug 26 2017LEEDuser Moderator
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No, there is a not a LEED 2009 table. For LEED 2009, the programs are in the credit language."