We recently started a Hotel project for certification. Since guests should be considered residents (according to the last post), should we use residential baselines for Room Fixtures? What about non-room fixtures? Should commercial baselines be used for those? Thanks for your replies.

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Catalina A

SUSTAINABLE DESIGN CONSULTANT

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Thu, 06/02/2011 - 19:41

For room fixtures you should use residential baseline since the user will be a particular individual. For public areas in the hotel you should use commercial baseline since everyone at the hotel will have access to them and for LEED that is considered as a public bathroom.

marisol cano

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Mon, 06/06/2011 - 15:36

Hello Catalina, great response, following that I have a question, if the hotel guests are residents, in the FTE calculation (for other credits example: SS 4.2 Bike & Storage should you put those hotel guests as residents as well, having to provide 15% of racks for bikes? Also, If they are Residents should they be considered Full time users in the FTE´s Table PL f3-2 and PL f3-3? Thanks for your help

Susann Geithner

Principal

Emerald Built Environments

LEEDuser Basic Member

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Mon, 06/06/2011 - 20:53

We did the same than Catalina for our project. For the PIF-forms there is a separate entry for residence, which we use to enter the hotel guests. For SS 4.2 Bikes I would argue that hotel guest most certainly don't come by bike and exclude it from your calculation. We have a project, where truckers deliver products and may use the bathrooms but in no instance would they use the bike. So we excluded them. That has been excepted by the reviewers.

Catalina A

SUSTAINABLE DESIGN CONSULTANT

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Tue, 06/07/2011 - 17:39

Hi Maria, Susann is correct for credit SSc4.2 Bike & Storage you should not consider 15% of racks for bikes, the LEED guide specifically sais that “Certain types of transient populations can be excluded from these calculations if they cannot reasonably be expected to arrive by bicycle” this applies for airtravelers (hotel guests). Calculations must be justified. Also you should exclude guests from table Pfl 3.2 and Pfl 3.3, though you should consider visitors if you have any in table Pfl3.3

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