V4 Passed, NOW can we move on!

Barry Giles

Founder & CEO, LEED Fellow, BREEAM Fellow

BuildingWise LLC

LEEDuser Expert

224 thumbs up

July 2, 2013

While it's been 'fun' to have numerous comment periods, extensive and detailed discussions about the most miniscular of LEED subjects...Oh boy am I pleased that the landslide bought that to an end. Now we can start work and get the rating systems brought up to scratch out in the field. With 100 pilots running and most of us ready and willing to get our hands dirty, the 'nattering nabobs of negativity' will be hushed and the work started. Well done all of you connected with this process, from the volunteers to the staff. Now, what about V5?...I've got a few ideas......

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Karen Joslin

principal

Joslin Consulting

LEEDuser Basic Member

140 thumbs up

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 21:48

Have put off reading and responding at LEEDuser for many months, but cannot overlook being called a nattering nabob of negativity! Barry this can't be considered good natured in the best case and I am really offended. I suspect that Rob and others here are simply exasperated that the insistence on going so far around a corner that has no traffic signals yet will be the undoing of LEED. And about that landslide - there are thousands of us out here I suspect that simply abstained after reading the details of the voting requirements truly believing that without an appropriate quorum the vote could not count. Not sure where the 86% voters came from, but I do expect a GIGANTIC jump away from LEED in June 2015. And this is while I am spending gobs of my time that I don't have to work with large chemical based manufacturers who do not support the ACC's attacks and Ohio's largest public institutions to educate our senators not to pass along Senate Concurring Resolution 25 banning LEED in public projects. This insanity could have been avoided with a better LEED v4 set of transitional products and I am just steaming...

Barry Giles

Founder & CEO, LEED Fellow, BREEAM Fellow

BuildingWise LLC

LEEDuser Expert

224 thumbs up

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 22:16

Karen, at the end of the day it DID pass...and is now the format that we will need to abide by. Will it work in all buildings all the time...I'm sure that it won't. Will V4 cover every eventuality on every credit all of the time...I doubt it. But the advancement of the transparency requirements reminds me of the 'differences of opinion' we had with the first roll out of mercury in lamps. Despite the fact that mercury content in lamps was freely available in Europe, there was tremendous difficulty in getting that information in the USA, it took time for industry to accept that we were asking the question and time fort the industry to supply the answer. Once again EPD's and the like are now looked upon as the way forward in Europe and beyond...do they work?, well I'm sure there are others better positioned to answer that question. However, given the fact that LEED was created and continues to be created by volunteers (working hundreds of hours yearly) and a small number of dedicated staff members (who seem to be awake at all hours of the day and night when I email them)..I think USGBC did a GREAT job. So...V5...when shall we start on that?