In v2009 we are required to survey only the regular occupants and not the visitors regardless of how many visitors there are correct? Our project has 520 FTE's but over 3000 regular visitors per day (it's a courthouse). The way I understand v4 is we can not get the single point for conducting the survey if we do not survey the visitors, is this correct? "Visitors must be surveyed if either the typical peak or daily average is greater than the number of regular building occupants." If we are using v4 and we survey all 520 FTE's we will not get any points regardless of how many are commuting alternatively.