Hi! During construction our client has added a playground area and changed a small ampitheater from grass to DG. From everything I have seen, both of these items are considered hardscape based on the LEED definition, which means that we need to find the SR values. In both instances, the manufactures have told us they don't have any SR information. I have also looked at other manufacturers to see if they have anything comparable. However, becasue there are so many different mix design options for playground surfacing, I have not been able to find anything. I guess my first question is if anyone knows of any DG or granular rubber playground surfacing products that have SR information? If we are not able to find this information, my understanding is that we would need to show that at installation an initial SR of at least .33 as measured in accordance with ANSI/CRRC S100 in order for these areas to contribute to this credit. Has anyone done this and if so how did you go about doing it? Lastly if we aren't able to count any of these materials, has anyone been able to get any sort for credit from playground equipment acting as a shade structure