At the time when we were submitting our design submittal, the elementary school project was only going to be able to get 7% of its energy offseted with renewables. Since then, we have got PV panels that can offset all 100% of the energy used by the building.
We would like to reapply for EAc2 so that we get all 7 points and not just 1 point that was originally awarded for the project. What would be the process to do this? Does this need to be an appeal?
There are other credits that get affected by this change, like the EAc1 (Optimize energy performance) and the SSc7.2 (Heat island affect - roof). Will we need to re-apply for those too as they were already awarded to us. Do we have to reapply for these and will these have to be done through an appeal as well?
We would also like to get an exemplary point for EAc2 as we are doing much more than the max 13% that the credit awards for energy offsets. My understanding would be that if we do not apply for EAc2 to change it from 7-13%, we wont be able to apply for the exemplary credit. Is this correct? Thank you!
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Renee Shirey
Stantec422 thumbs up
October 8, 2014 - 11:39 am
A small point of clarification - the design credits that were approved at the end of the Design Submittal are technically "Anticipated", not "Awarded". It is not until the Construction review has been completed that points/credits are "Awarded" to a project. Think of it this way - the reviewers "anticipate" that the design credit will be awarded - based upon the original design that was submitted. But in your case, the design has changed.
In the Construction Submittal (when doing a split review), not only do you submit the construction credits and any desired design credits that may not have been submitted at the Design Submittal, you can also resubmit any "anticipated" design credit if something has changed during the project that would alter the results of the previously submitted credit. This sounds like your case.
Select the credit that you want to reopen, and then click on the "In Progress" icon on the Credit Information page. Make the changes to the credit form, and also be sure to provide a narrative to the reviewer explaining why the credit is being resubmitted - that way they know what changes to be looking for. When done with your changes, click on the "Complete" icon on the Credit Information page, and the credit will be closed and ready for when you attempt your Construction Submittal. The Status for the modified credit will have a green checkmark on the Scorecare page - that tells the reviewers that the credit has been opened and needs to be reviewed.
Hint - once you click the "In Progress" icon you cannot undo it. You have to reclose the credit by clicking the "Complete" icon, and the credit will be flagged (the green checkmark) for review during the Construction Submittal. If you open an "anticipated" credit by accident, make sure to add a note in the Special Circumstances field in the credit, explaining your error. (been there, done that)
Brianne Smith
ArchitectRB+B Architects
October 8, 2014 - 11:47 am
I posted a similar question earlier, and the comment we received indicated that to resubmit a credit from the design phase in the construction phase would require a $500 fee per credit. Can anyone clarify when this is or isn't the case? Thanks.
Jennifer Wehling
Director of SustainabilityHMC Architects
28 thumbs up
October 8, 2014 - 12:17 pm
In my recent experience, if you have changes to the design after the design review is complete, you can have the effected credits reviewed again in the construction submittal without an appeal.
On my project we moved a few walls taking 2 larger rooms and changing them into 3 smaller rooms, this affected a few different design credits including EQc2, EQc6.1 & 6.2, MRp1 and maybe even a few others. We also added PVs to the project which affected EAp2, EAc1 & EAc2. We did coordinate with our review team first to confirm it would be allowable to have these credits re-reviewed during the construction submittal based on our situation.
Another thought – maybe someone can confirm this - after you accept your design review I don’t think you can appeal a design credit. Resubmitting during the construction phase may be your only option.
Kristina Bach
VP of InnovationSustainable Investment Group
151 thumbs up
October 9, 2014 - 9:53 am
To respond to Jennifer's last point regarding when you can appeal:
In Split Reviews, we all know there are two appeal phases: Design Appeal + Construction Appeal. The Design Appeal phase can obviously only include Design Phase credits (as those are the only things to have been fully reviewed and denied at that point). The Construction Appeal phase, however, can include any denied credits (i.e. Design Phase Credits and/or Construction Phase Credits). So you could accept the Design Phase results and still go back and appeal any denied credits at a later date.
For our projects, we typically recommend waiting to file any appeals until after the Construction Preliminary and Final Reviews are complete and you know exactly where the project stands (i.e. will those denied credits get you to another threshold? are there cheaper appeal options? etc.). Additionally, it has the potential to slightly reduce the overall timeline as you move from two appeal phases (two 25-business days reviews) to one appeal phase (one 25-business review). The only time we really deviate from this wait-process would be in cases where a Design Phase prerequisite was denied - that you would definitely want to appeal in the Design Appeal Phase to confirm that you've addressed all issues/can get LEED certified.
Shivani Langer
Principal, Senior Project Architect, Regional Sustainability LeaderOctober 9, 2014 - 10:35 am
Thank you everyone for your responses! I am still a little confused. Renee, to your point, the credits in design phase say awarded in the score card, not anticipated. I think it said anticipated after the preliminary design submittal.
I hear that we can appeal a point that was denied, does one have to appeal a point that was awarded to re-submit durinng construction submittal? It seems Jennifer didnt have to do it for their project. If this means getting a confirmation from the review team to confirm what they think needs to be done, I can send an email to the reviewers (is that the best way of contact - where can I find the best contact email or phone number)? Thank you!
Jennifer Wehling
Director of SustainabilityHMC Architects
28 thumbs up
October 13, 2014 - 4:53 pm
Shivani -
Kristina makes a good point that you could appeal these at the end of the construction submittal, but I would guess that is longer than you would want to wait.
I think because these points were not denied originally and you have a legitimate design change, you can have the effected credits re-reviewed during the construction phase. We use the GBCI contact page to reach out to our review teams on tricky issues like this one. If you happen to be going to GreenBuild next week, you could drop in or make an appointment at the Workzone to discuss the issue as well.
Good Luck!
Shivani Langer
Principal, Senior Project Architect, Regional Sustainability LeaderOctober 13, 2014 - 8:20 pm
Jennifer, thank you for your response! I had the same thought, I will bring it up at the workzone at greenbuild when I am there. I hope the response is to not have to appeal each credit as it affects a lot of credits and that would be a lot of money for the client who has worked hard to collect money for all the PV panels to make a net zero building possible. Thank you!