In completing the pilot credit survey, I thought the item re: requiring this credit as a prerequisite was interesting. I don't know that this pilot credit would make sense as a prereq, but what experiences have others seen across various project types?
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Felicity Lee
JLLMarch 26, 2019 - 4:14 am
My recent office project is designed with plenty of non-regularly occupied spaces for employees taking short breaks (e.g. meditation area & cafe) at locations with excellent view to outdoor. Therefore, my project has no problem in achieving this pilot credit.
Nita Christopher
Associate / ArchitectRATIO
3 thumbs up
April 8, 2019 - 12:14 pm
I think this question is very thought-provoking. If we consider IT server rooms, printing rooms, mother's rooms, and other non-regularly occupied spaces it is difficult to truly dedicate glazing and associated quality views to those secondary spaces. If we consider a mother's room which needs visual and acoustic privacy, requiring quality views to this space may be counterproductive.
Kim Sosalla-Bahr
Sr. Sustainability Consultant, Professional AssociateHDR-CEI Architecture
20 thumbs up
August 13, 2019 - 4:25 pm
I agree that I don't think this credit would make sense as a prerequisite. For some building types, it would be difficult to provide the non-regularly occupied spaces with quality views. Additionally, providing vision glazing for some non-regularly occupied spaces on the perimeter of the building could also allow vision into the space from outside of the building which can cause concerns related to aesthetics but also privacy. An open office building has a much easier path to achievement than some other building types.
I could see this credit combined with the Quality Views in regularly occupied spaces credit, allowing project teams to earn 1 or 2 points. Our project team pursued this credit because we successfully pursued the Quality Views in regularly occupied spaces credit and therefore had a lot of the work done and just needed to assess for the non-regularly occupied spaces.
Judd Christopher
September 10, 2019 - 2:15 pm
I also agree that this credit wouldn't make sense has a prerequisite as I think it would be difficult for certain building types to comply with. I do agree with Kim that it would make more sense to combine with the Quality Views credit for an additional point.
Adriana Hansen
ManagerCTE - Centro de Tecnologia de Edificações
118 thumbs up
February 5, 2020 - 3:49 pm
Combining credits requirements or making this an exemplary performance is a great idea, makes much more sense than a prerequisite.
Brightworks Sustainability
Brightworks Sustainability LLC46 thumbs up
February 19, 2020 - 7:07 pm
I agree with Kim Sosalla-Bhar.
It would be interesting to see this as an option for credit achievement or as an Exemplary Performance option as having Quality views in non-regularly occupied spaces, more transient spaces (ie. cooridors, elevator lobbies, etc.) can positively add to an occupants experience in a space and should be encouraged!
David Posada
Integrated Design & LEED SpecialistSERA Architects
LEEDuser Expert
1979 thumbs up
February 21, 2020 - 7:29 pm
My hunch is the question about the feasibility of meeting the requirements if the pilot credit was a pre-requisite may be a standard question in all the surveys. Since achieving the Views credit in *regularly* occupied spaces is hard enough (I read only 55-65% of v2009 projects earned it, and v4 is a bit harder) it's harder to imagine making views for *non*-regularly occupied spaces, (mostly the support spaces typically near the core) a pre-requisite...
Christopher Hoeh
Senior Sustainability ConsultantRoyal HaskoningDHV
March 2, 2020 - 9:03 am
Even the standard Quality Views credit is not a prerequisite, so I see no reason to making this credit a prerequisite. I agree with David that this portion of the survey is a standard question for all pilot credits. I would prefer to see this as an exemplary performance option for the regular Quality Views credit.
SIG - Sustainability Main Account
Sustainability ConsultantsSustainable Investment Group (SIG)
86 thumbs up
March 30, 2020 - 2:20 pm
I also like that idea - an additional point over a prerequisite. The hard part, is some areas (bathrooms, Mothers Rooms, Wellness rooms, etc) that are considered 'non-regularly occupied' would not benefit from views. There may need to be further clarification/delineation in those areas for the credit to move forward.
David Alemany
April 12, 2020 - 5:48 am
I agree with those who say that it is not appropriate requiring this credit as a prerequisite because I think, although is achievable in most of the projects in which we collaborate, in some projects compliance may not be feasible, for instance projects with non-regularly occupied spaces in basements
Hoda Ibrahim
LEED Projects AdministratorEngineering Consultants Group
1 thumbs up
April 16, 2020 - 7:04 am
What are the places which consider non-regularly occupied spaces?
Natalia Alvarez
Project EngineerPepper Construction
May 5, 2020 - 5:41 pm
I am working on a multiresidential project on a college campus that has some nonregularly occupied space, mainly as corridors and storage space. The problem with the former is that windows at the end of hallways are narrow, and the area that meets the quality view requirements is small. While the view requirements are feasible in commonly occupied areas, they would have to be altered or more lax to accomodate for rooms designed for privacy as mentioned above.
C Yuen
21 thumbs up
March 11, 2021 - 6:17 am
I agree that this will not make much sense as a prerequisite. The non-regularly occupied spaces (IT rooms / store rooms etc) are deliberately viewless.
SIG - Sustainability Main Account
Sustainability ConsultantsSustainable Investment Group (SIG)
86 thumbs up
March 25, 2021 - 3:40 pm
I agree, most buildings I work on would be able to meet this threshold as a prerequisite. However, I think a better understanding of applicable space types would be nice as USGBC's list is outdated to new construction spaces we are seeing.