Hi there,
I am currently calculating the peak occupancy and daily average occupancy for a mall building.
I am very confuse whether the occupancy rates in appendix 2. Default occupancy counts refer to daily average occupancy values or peak occupancy.
In the case of employees occupancy is simple, since this number is roughly the same. But the transient occupants might vary a lot, the peak occupants will be much lower than the average daily occupancy.
Please could you clarify this point?
Thanks
emily reese moody
Sustainability Director, Certifications & ComplianceJacobs
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October 17, 2022 - 12:37 pm
Appendix 2 typically applies to Core/Shell projects, only occasionally new construction. There is a section of text in the Getting Started section of the BD+C guide that explains when projects can use App 2:
"Buildings and spaces that earn LEED certification should be completed by the time they have submitted their final application for LEED certification. Complete means that no further work is needed and the project is ready for occupancy. No more than 40% of the certifying gross floor area of a LEED project may consist of incomplete space unless the project is using the LEED BD+C: Core and Shell rating system. Additionally, projects that include incomplete spaces must use Appendix 2 Default Occupancy Counts to establish occupant counts for incomplete
spaces.
For incomplete spaces in projects using a rating system other than LEED BD+C: Core and Shell, the project team must provide supplemental documentation.
So, be aware of the additional documentation needed if you do, indeed, fall under the 40% threshold and still need to use App 2.
That said, the values there represent average occupancies, not peak. If peak is needed for some calcs, you'll need to determine how to arrive at those values for your project, and likely supply a narrative with your documentation explaining your assumptions. For a mall, it would probably be expected to have the peaks around holidays.
Julio Fernandez Amodia
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October 17, 2022 - 1:23 pm
Hi Emily,
Thanks for your quick response. You are right this is a CS project, my mistake, I selected the wrong category in the forum discussion topic filter.
As I understand it is the average for a moment in particular, but not the accumulated occupancy in a day, I mean the average visitors throughout a day. Am I right or am I confusing terms?
Let's say my average occupancy is from appendix 2 in retail 12 sqm/transient occupant, assuming these transient occupants will be around 2 hours in the mall. If we consider the mall will be open for 12 hours, that will be 12/(12/2) = 2 sqm/transient occupant on average daily.
Does this make sense?
Thanks
emily reese moody
Sustainability Director, Certifications & ComplianceJacobs
LEEDuser Expert
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October 17, 2022 - 2:00 pm
It's meant to be an average for any given day (not a moment in time), so I guess it does represent an accumulated total per day.
The hours of operation should not play into this calculation; the transients are assumed in a 24-hour period.
Also note these statements in the Getting Started text:
The online version of the front of the Ref Guide can be found here: https://www.usgbc.org/guide/bdc
When I've had a complex or atypical project in the past, I email LEED Coach directly with my assumed occupancy values and get their blessing before moveing forward with the design or calcs.
Julio Fernandez Amodia
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October 17, 2022 - 3:03 pm
Thank for the response Emily. That answer my question.
Julio Fernandez Amodia
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December 5, 2022 - 7:06 am
Hi again Emily,
I am concerned about the peak occupancy. If the occupancy counts from Appendix 2 are daily average values, How to calculate transients for the peak occupancy in order to calculate the bicycle facilities? Shouldn't this number be different? Let say I have 10000 transient occupants on average daily from LEED appendix 2, how much my peak occupancy will be?
Thanks
Julio Fernandez Amodia
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December 14, 2022 - 3:06 am
Hi,
I belive these values can't be daily average values. They have to be values for a moment in time, but maybe not peak either.
I mean this since the ratio of employees and transites for retail 51/12 is very low for a default day, that is like saying in a day there will be only 4 customers per employee. Could you please confirm me this asumption?
On the other hand, the LEED reference guide (Getting started-> occupancy-> table 1) states clearly that the values used for the bicycle facilities calculation are peak and not average daily visitors.
Thanks
emily reese moody
Sustainability Director, Certifications & ComplianceJacobs
LEEDuser Expert
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February 9, 2023 - 12:42 am
The Appendix 2 values are definitely averages, not peak. Are you seeing a specific credit in the Core/Shell version that is asking for a peak calculation? The indoor water use prereq/credit does not use peak values.
Julio Fernandez Amodia
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February 9, 2023 - 4:08 am
Hi Emily,
I understand. The peak visitor number is needed for the bicycle storage calculation and in a mall building that represent most of the occupants at that point in time, thus the relevance. I believe this should be more clear in the Appendix 2.
Thank you for your clarification.