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ND-Plan-v4 GIBp1:Certified green building

LEED ND Plan on Certified Green Building

Michael Wahjudi

Sustainable Consultant

LEEDuser Basic Member

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October 30, 2020

Good day everyone, I have few questions in related to LEED ND. Some are general and some are specific to this particular credits. But I can't find place to put general LEED ND question. So I put it here.

Currently the development is still on planning stage. Do we need to obtain local authority approval on master planning prior to LEED ND certification?
If the project is going for LEED ND: Plan, as potentially it will pursue certification during planning stage. We would like to understand on the flexibility that the development able to have. As the 30 development will be split into few phases and there will be potential of modification that might come from local authority regulation (if any)
Additionally by going for LEED ND: Plan, are we able to get the full certificate OR we should continue to proceed with LEED ND: Building Project in the future for full certificate? As the rating system informed it will be different awards. Appreciate if anyone can highlight on the major differences on award between these 2 rating systems and way forward needed after final certification on each rating systems
Is there LEED ND certification expiry? Since the development will take more than 5 years to be fully constructed and the developer would like to use the certification for long term.
Within the LEED ND, one of the building shall be LEED BD+C certified or 75% floor area shall be LEED ID+C certified, as per GIB Prerequisite: Certified Green Building. If the master planning is still on conceptual and no detailed design sufficient to proceed for LEED BD+C at one of the building. How we can tackle this issue? Is undertaking later that in future there will be one building LEED BD+C certified able to show compliance?
With the project on planning stage and potential of letter of undertaking needed. What will be the process on clarification and verification needed if letter of undertaking is needed and accpted?

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Eliot Allen

LEED AP-ND, Principal

Criterion Planners

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Fri, 10/30/2020 - 18:42

Michael, in response to your questions: 1. If a project is not yet approved or fully entitled by the local government, the project may submit for a Letter of Support. 2. I am sorry but this question is unclear, can you restate it? 3. The LEED ND: Plan rating system is for projects in the planning stage or that have constructed less than 75% of their total building floor area. The LEED ND: Built Project rating system is for projects that are fully constructed. 4. There is no expiration date for certifications. 5. If a project is pursuing a Letter of Support, it is sufficient for GIBp Certified Green Building to identify the name of the building and the green building rating system that will subsequently be used to certify the building. 6. Again I am sorry but this question is also unclear, can you restate it? I will be glad to respond to restated questions, or provide additional clarification on any of my responses. Eliot

Michael Wahjudi

Sustainable Consultant

LEEDuser Basic Member

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Mon, 11/02/2020 - 01:09

Hi Allen, Thanks for the quick reply. We have few additional question 1. What is the extent of authority approval needed for LEED ND Certification? The reason why is the development is planning to use LEED ND Certification as one of the supporting document to obtain their local authority compliance. To show how the development is integrating the sustainable features. The site is owned by the developer and they would like to use this LEED ND certification for their concept master plan approval. 2. We are planning to do LEED ND: Plan by submitting concept master plan for entire site. However, the development will be split into few phases and the construction might take few years on each phases. So, there will be potential of changes along the way (if any). We just want to understand how this will affect if we already obtained LEED ND: Plan certification on concept master plan? 3. Is there a differents awards between LEED ND: Plan and LEED ND: Built Project? As LEED CS has precertification and we are wondering whether LEED ND: Plan will be similar type of "precertification" award 4. Noted with thanks 5. Noted with thanks 6. As the project is on planning stage and potentially we will be submitting plenty of Letter of Support on our strategies to fulfill some of credits. Is there any follow up required on these in future? Like follow up with GBCI few years later that we have implemented strategies stipulated on Letter of Support

Eliot Allen

LEED AP-ND, Principal

Criterion Planners

LEEDuser Expert

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Mon, 11/02/2020 - 17:38

Michael, 1. If the project wants to use LEED ND to help obtain local government approval, then you should pursue a Letter of Support (LOS) under the LEED ND: Plan rating system. There is no requirement to have any local approval in order to obtain a LOS. In fact the primary purpose of a LOS is to demonstrate to local authorities that a project is worthy of their approval. Note that a LOS is technically not a certification, but instead is simply awarded. 2. You may submit a master plan for the entire site for a LOS, and then subsequently submit individual phases for Certified Plan (CP) awards. It is ok to have project changes between a LOS award and CP submissions. It is also ok to have project changes between CP awards and certification under the LEED ND: Built Project rating system. 3. The difference in approvals between the LEED ND: Plan rating system and LEED ND: Built Project rating system is that the Plan approval is an "award" and the Built Project approval is a "certification." The Plan rating system has two possible awards: a LOS which is a pre-design precertification, and a CP which is a design-level precertification. The difference between LOS and CP submissions is the level of detail in required documentation. Required documentation for LOS and CP is detailed for each prerequisite and credit in the LEED ND Reference Guide. 4. N/A. 5. N/A. 6. There is no required follow-up with GBCI on LOS or CP. Eliot

Michael Wahjudi

Sustainable Consultant

LEEDuser Basic Member

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Tue, 11/03/2020 - 03:18

Thanks Eliot for the wonderful reply. Its very helpful

Muzammal Abbas LEED AP (BD+C)

LEED Project Manager

SIDEworks

LEEDuser Basic Member

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Thu, 03/17/2022 - 07:17

Hi, I have a project in Pakistan, It's a greenfield socity with mixed multiple projects residentail units, offices, hospital, commercial, retial etc. like a community owned by single developer. Can you please assisst on the following questions with your expertise. Will be glad if you find time and answer. 1) Which option is practical, LEED Campus or LEED cities/communities. As i checked on USGBC data base there are only 45 projects registered in LEED Communities Plan Design V4.1 and no one is certified yet. 2) How i can check total number of projects certified or registered in Campus catagory bcz there is no option for this catagory to filter it on USGBC website. 3) If we go in LEED Campus then how we can market it for branding like LEED Campus certified project or LEED Approved Master Site or LEED certified Master Site to get benefit for whole faciltiy. As per USGBC guidlines no master site can be certified then what will be the branding name.

Eliot Allen

LEED AP-ND, Principal

Criterion Planners

LEEDuser Expert

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Thu, 03/17/2022 - 17:18

Muzammal, see the response to your questions that I just posted on the System Selection forum suggesting that LEED ND might be another feasible option. Eliot

Ramkrishna Kashyap

Facilities manager

Prime project International Dubai

LEEDuser Basic Member

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Mon, 02/10/2025 - 16:20

LEED AP BD+C Better than LEED AP ND

Eliot Allen

LEED AP-ND, Principal

Criterion Planners

LEEDuser Expert

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Mon, 02/10/2025 - 17:48

Michael, in response to your questions: 1. For ND Plan eligibility, the ND developer must first obtain local government land-use entitlement for the project, but not necessarily local govcernment approval of a master plan. For example, if the ND developer wants to build apartments the project site must be zoned for multiunit residential use as an entitlement, but a detailed apartment parcel and circulation plan does not need local government approval in order to qualify for ND Plan. However, it is important to note that a project team will have to document plan details for an ND Plan submission that are roughly equivalent to a typical master plan submitted to local government. 2. Some long-term phased projects attempting ND Plan make submissions that correspond to phases, e.g. certify phases one and two initially and then certify other phases later. If an ND Plan submission covers multiple phases and circumstances change over time, it is possible to amend project characteristics when submitting for ND Built. 3. With ND Plan, you are receiving certification of a project plan. With ND Built, you are receiving certification of a built project. There is no qualitative difference between the two certifications, they simply acknowledge two different project stages. 4. ND certification does not expire. 5. Planned, but not designed, buildings can be addressed by an ND developer commitment to future compliance. 6. Sorry, your last question is unclear. If it is about using the ND Letter of Support instead of ND Plan, please clarify. Eliot