Perhaps I missed this was snuck in for v4, but what part of laundry makes it now added to the rooms needing exhaust, supply, and negative pressure? Is it possible this could be interpreted the same as convenience copiers in that there are some washers and a dryer located throughout a support space? They are in multi occupant shared work spaces and are not commercial or for commercial use. Can anyone explain what this intends to prevent? Thank you!
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Emily Purcell
Sustainable Design LeadCannonDesign
LEEDuser Expert
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August 23, 2018 - 6:22 pm
Laundry was in the credit language in v2009, lumped in with housekeeping. I have always interpreted it as being akin to the copier/printer in that commercial-scale facilities like a hotel or hospital laundry need to meet the credit requirements but residential type machines that receive limited use don't. Of course I will default to anyone who has been through a v4 review with such space in their project - I have only had this reviewed in v4 on a dorm project where we did have large laundry facilities.
Karen Joslin
Sustainability LeadPAE Consulting Engineers
5 thumbs up
August 23, 2018 - 6:28 pm
Thanks Emily - I guess I had the same experience and understanding. Maybe someone else will offer something different, but glad to hear from you again. As always.
Maria Porter
Sustainability specialistSkanska Sweden
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June 18, 2019 - 4:49 am
Hi!
As for laundry and storage of cleaning equipment, does it not depend on what chemicals you use/store? I would argue that if you use regular ecofriendly household detergent or just soaps etc that it is not a room with hazardous gases. But if you use bleach and strong chemicals it is a room that might have hazardous gases. What do you think? That is something I have yet not tested…
David Hryvniak
Project ConsultantSustainable Design Consulting, LLC
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December 10, 2019 - 12:00 pm
Checking for updates - has anyone gotten confirmation that small residential laundry rooms can be excluded?
Maria, to answer your question, the Step-by-Step Guidance in the Reference Guide states, "Include housekeeping and laundry areas even if green cleaning policies are adopted."
Maria Porter
Sustainability specialistSkanska Sweden
268 thumbs up
March 24, 2020 - 10:28 am
David, yes, unfortunately… We have had to install this on every little laundry room… I still don't agree that this is right though.
Emily Purcell
Sustainable Design LeadCannonDesign
LEEDuser Expert
319 thumbs up
March 24, 2020 - 11:48 am
Maria, do you mean laundry within residential units?
Karen Joslin
Sustainability LeadPAE Consulting Engineers
5 thumbs up
March 24, 2020 - 12:25 pm
So the reference to having green cleaning policies pertains to the "housekeeping" or chemical mixing spaces. In my experience the deciding factor is going to be whether the washing/drying equipment is contained within a room with doors, I think this would then apply to residential spaces if you are certifying in the BDC rating system. AS for the laundry - I have recently certified a laundry and dry cleaning facility (large store) in v4 IDC-Retail and there were no special needs for partitioning or exhausting for the LEED certification. Can't offer it as an LI but I have the cert in hand.
Maria Porter
Sustainability specialistSkanska Sweden
268 thumbs up
March 25, 2020 - 4:26 am
Emily, in this case it was in a nursing home, so semi-residential. Used for washing the clothes of people who live there. And in Sweden we never use bleach or other Chemicals, only Eco-labeled detergent. I Think this credit should focus on the rooms in the intent, and should not draw all under the same rules, depending on if you have potential hazardous substances or not.