Hi, we want to certify a restaurant and as described in the reference guide: commercial kitchen (food service) sinks and prep sinks, including pot filling sinks, wash-down, and cleaning sinks can be excluded from calculations. But my doubt is, if we want to know how much water consume these type of faucets because we want to reuse it as grey water, how many uses shall I take in count for these elements? The guide says 1 use per employee and day, but it seems to low for me for a restaurant, can I estimate my own uses per day or is there any reference to look for this data.
Thank you in advance for your help.
emily reese moody
Sustainability Director, Certifications & ComplianceJacobs
LEEDuser Expert
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October 16, 2018 - 7:28 pm
Hi Borja,
This information you are seeking still would not be needed for the calculations. The reviewers only want to see calculations that include the following for your project type:
Anything not in that list should be excluded from the calcs.
If you are looking to incorporate savings from nonpotable water that will be reused in some of the fixtures listed above, your calcs would be based on those fixtures that would reuse the gray water, not the ones the water would be coming from. These savings would need to be calculated separately from the Water Use Calculator provided for this credit, and accompanied by a narrative explaining the calcs and systems in place. Gray water is typically only reused for irrigation and toilet flushing, unless you get some pretty sophisticated treatment systems in place. It is unlikely that the fixtures you mention as being excluded would ever be included in the calcs for this credit.
If you have advanced treatment systems, though, it may be best to contact GBCI with your specific information and ask what the appropriate way to calculate things would be. You could also see if your project is eligible to document a point in the Innovation category using one of the following options available to CI v4 projects:
https://www.usgbc.org/node/7433878?return=/credits/commercial-interiors/...
https://www.usgbc.org/node/5475510?return=/credits/commercial-interiors/...
Dionisio Franca
DirectorWoonerf Inc.
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October 16, 2018 - 8:23 pm
Hello,
I assume that project recycles the water from the kitchen, and used it for toilet flush. If water is recycled and used on the project, it is important to know how to calculate how much water would be used by the fixtures that are not included in the LEED scope of work. Emily is right, GBCI has the final word over it. One can look for data of similar facilities or design manuals in order to calculate how much water is expected to be used by the mentioned fixtures that are not covered by the LEED calculations.
Please update us if you hear from GBCI.
Suzanne Painter-Supplee, LEED AP+ID&C
PrincipalSEESolutions LLC
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October 16, 2018 - 9:08 pm
For prep and pot sinks, water used would be based on FILL so use there would be based on gallon capacity of each compartment and how many fills they get. If the sinks have a pre-rinse spray, there are LEED standards for pre-rinse sprays and hand sink faucets so compute separately. Hand sinks in the kitchen would get heavy use, particularly if the restaurant doesn't have food handlers. (vs. wait staff who handle money, take orders, serve food.) Flow rate for fill faucets don't count. The pot sink might be 'black water' or go into a grease trap. Pot sink water is typically changed between meals, so gallons of sink times X. Prep sink would be menu-driven. But since this is a RESTAURANT, have you considered capturing ice machine run-off? There are methods for computing projected ice use per guest/employee. Depending on the type of ice and beverage, it could be a bigger 'get' for you. AND, the water recycled would be there regardless of whether the restaurant has full service/eat in, OR takeout for which beverages would be included. Cubed ice makers use more water (send more down the drain) than extruded ice forms like flake and nugget.