I'm pursuing Option 4-Vehicle Sharing Program for SSc4.3. My project is a student residential building in a college campus. From PI f3, I enter 171 as my total 'residents' number, and '0' for FTE as directed by the instruction. As these numbers are linked to the credit forms, I can't get it to use the 'residents' value instead of the '0' FTE. I need it to calculate that the number of LE/FE vehicles are serving more than 3% of the FTE, but the FTE is 0...what do I do???
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Susan Walter
HDRLEEDuser Expert
1296 thumbs up
July 7, 2011 - 8:46 am
Are you sure that you are using the correct option? It seems really odd to me that the college would provide vehicles for students to share. If the project is providing signs for these vehicles, then you want option 1. Here you need to know about total parking capacity. Read through the LEED NC Application Guide for Multiple Buildings and On-Campus Building Project (AGMBC) for direction.
Michelle Rosenberger
PartnerArchEcology
522 thumbs up
July 7, 2011 - 11:52 am
Car sharing, like Zipcar, makes sense to me. We have had similar issues with FTEs. I read the requirements that you need 1 car if you have less than 267 FTEs. You obviously do even if your residents were actually considered FTEs. The requirement would still only be 1.
The credit form won't document since you can't get the percentage, so I would note that in the special circumstances.
Bonnie Chiu
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July 7, 2011 - 4:42 pm
Thank you Michelle. Yes my total residents is 171 and it would only require 1 car to satisfy this credit. I've talked to some colleagues about the FTE dilemma and they also suggest using the special circumstances to note that. It just seems odd to me that the calculation of these forms aren't adjustable to whether the building has "residents" or "FTE", as there are many residential projects that would have a "0" FTE.
Michelle Rosenberger
PartnerArchEcology
522 thumbs up
July 7, 2011 - 6:36 pm
Agreed, Bonnie. The SS transportation credits are all geared to FTE occupants rather than users. One of my current projects is a Community Center with 3 FTEs and 300 visitors a day. Obviously the transients are more of an issue than the staff. Shades of LEED's beginnings with commercial office projects.
And by the way I forgot to add that even using the Special Circumstances the form is not going to document the point, so ultimately you won't be able to make the submittal without also sending a Feedback request on it anyway. So you might want to initiate that regardless. Good luck.
Bonnie Chiu
32 thumbs up
July 11, 2011 - 11:49 am
Michelle, how do I submit a feedback request? And do I do that now before I turn in the whole package for a prelim design credit review?
Michelle Rosenberger
PartnerArchEcology
522 thumbs up
July 11, 2011 - 12:20 pm
Hi Bonnie,
Feedback requests are accessed inside your LEED 2009 project. At the scorecard, you should see navigation at the very top of the screen in white. Your Account, Help, Feedback, etc. The feedback is intended for LEED 2009 online malfunction issues, since it's basically still in beta. This is the mechanism for credit forms that have problems or don't seem to do what they should.
If it were me, I would do it now because I don't think the credit form is going to document the point with the issue you have. If it won't document the point, you may or may not be able to make the submittal. I'm honestly not sure with this version. You may be okay since it's not a prerequisite issue. It may be that marking the credit complete is enough even with the error message you get. You'll know if there's a problem because you won't get the button you need to push for the submittal.
In any event, the Feedback request will alert them to the connection issue and might help others in future. Making a feedback request shouldn't impact your design submittal one way or the other.