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LEED Reviews: Appeals, Design/Construction Submittals, and more

Deleting an awarded credit during an appeal phase?

Kathy Wislocky

Project Manager

Wilson Architects

LEEDuser Basic Member

2 thumbs up

June 4, 2013

If we are appealing EAp2 and IEQp1 for $500 each, do I also need to pay to remove another already awarded credit? For reference, our task lighting provisions are complicated. We've been awarded the LIghting Controllability IEQcr6.1 credit, but it's affecting our EAp2 calculations. We have a number of 2-person offices where a sensor was provided to turn on overhead lighting to each individual deskand turn off that half of the room when one desk was not occupied. The reviewer comments said that providing the "capacity" for task lights would enable us to achieve this credit. We have outlets for task lighting but no actual fixtures were provided by the owner. What did the reviewer mean by "capacity" and should we just drop this credit? Will we need to pay $500 to drop a credit during an appeal phase or how does this work?

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Kathryn West

LEED AP BD+C, O+M, Green Globes Professional

JLL

LEEDuser Basic Member

112 thumbs up

Tue, 06/04/2013 - 20:58

maybe they mean including task lighting in your EAp2 calculation... aka having the task lighting contribute to the lighting power density in the room. .X watts per square foot... that's required per ASHRAE 90.1-2007 FYI- IEQp1 and EAp2 are "complex" credits and cost $800 to appeal. I'd think you could just remove the credit. I don't see why you'd need to pay to do that?

Marcus Sheffer

LEED Fellow

7group / Energy Opportunities

LEEDuser Expert

4454 thumbs up

Tue, 06/04/2013 - 21:01

You can withdraw a credit at no charge.

Kathy Wislocky

Project Manager

Wilson Architects

LEEDuser Basic Member

2 thumbs up

Tue, 06/04/2013 - 21:15

Thanks for the quick feedback! Why on the project overview tab do they specifically list the appeal fee of $500 and then decide to not mention the $800 fee for "complex" credits? This is very deceiving. Especially since they mention EAp2 and EAc1 as an example. I've braced those footing the bill for $500 each based on the text below, not $800. Thanks for the heads up. From Overview Tab: "Appeal information: Submitted appeal applications will only be reviewed once; the fee for each appealed item is $500. Related denied credits/prerequisites (example, EAp2 and EAc1) are considered one item. After clicking the 'Enter Appeal Stage' button, the appeal may be cancelled by clicking the 'Cancel Appeal' button in the Overview tab. However, if any item of the application is marked as changed, the project must proceed with appeal application."

Kathryn West

LEED AP BD+C, O+M, Green Globes Professional

JLL

LEEDuser Basic Member

112 thumbs up

Tue, 06/04/2013 - 21:25

They probably forgot to update the overview tab. This page defines "complex credits" http://www.usgbc.org/glossary

Marcus Sheffer

LEED Fellow

7group / Energy Opportunities

LEEDuser Expert

4454 thumbs up

Tue, 06/04/2013 - 21:39

They did update the fees a while back. http://www.usgbc.org/leed/certification/fees/overview#tab1

Kathy Wislocky

Project Manager

Wilson Architects

LEEDuser Basic Member

2 thumbs up

Tue, 06/04/2013 - 23:29

Thanks for the links! They really need to update the overview tab to direct people back to the expanded fee list for clarity. Much appreciated!